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EPB engages with tailgate open and maybe even with the other combos, please dont do this one!

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twcz3

Discussion Starter · 3 d ago (Edited)

I went to the home depot for some wood and loaded up the tailgate. I couldn't close the tailgate all the way. In the past with my Niro EV, this wouldn't be a problem. I live only 3 miles away from the store. So slow and steady wins the race. Anyway, I knew it was going to flash at me, but somehow I missed the message that the EPB brake was engaged. I got about a mile in and noticed smoke smell of brakes. 🤦‍♂️ Pulled over right away to evaluate what had happened. I saw the warning message aternating from the tail image to the EPB message about the belt\close door\truck\liftgate message. I hit the button to disengage the brakes, but to be honest I don't know if it did or not. I got home and the rotors were as hot as charcoal Weber grill ready to give your steak flame seasoning. Ive never had a car do this to me ever. Even my Tesla MY would let me rip off my doors\ frunk\liftgate and not apply the EPB on me. This was a new one for the books. Just wanted to pass this one along.

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Romano

· #2 · 3 d ago

KIA legal department is seriously paranoid!

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Durham EV6

· #3 · 2 d ago

How can you close your tailgate with your seatbelt already on? 😂

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kalel14

· #4 · 2 d ago

Another example of this car's annoying habit of trying to out think me.

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billcarter

· #5 · 2 d ago

Durham EV6 said:
How can you close your tailgate with your seatbelt already on? 😂

Press the lift gate button at lower left of the steering wheel.

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dc30307

· #6 · 2 d ago

billcarter said:
Press the lift gate button at lower left of the steering wheel.

Which is ironic. We can't close the windows remotely from the FOB. We can't even auto-up the rear windows, despite the pinch sensors. Yet you can lower the tailgate while kind of being forced to have your eyes in the opposite direction of the tailgate. This is coming from the perspective of someone who has bumped his head on the tailgate multiple times, and expects that it can be more painful that pinching your fingers in the windows.

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Romano

· #7 · 2 d ago

kalel14 said:
Another example of this car's annoying habit of trying to out think me.

this is exactly what’s happening and it a bad idea

I’ve been doing functional and behavioral safety in automotive for nearly a decade and one of the main concepts is Controllability.

simply defined, it just means can the human handle the issue themselves and avoid hazardous events

we don’t second guess the human driver and we don’t put anything in place that would counter their input and control of vehicle systems

because we assume that overwhelming percentage of people who can buy and drive a car aren’t suicidal morons

this is not driven by functional safety engineering practices, this is lawyers trying to idiot proof stuff

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tangey

· #8 · 2 d ago

One would have though, given every single bit of safety equipment in the car, that an obvious "Do you realise that you are driving whilst the EPB is engaged" message and some serious bongs should occur. In fact is there a valid scenario where the car should ever allow the motors to engage when the EPB is engaged ?