[ElectricIreland]

I used 3 different cars for the 4 test drives and they all produced the same sort of figures on the test drives for the various speeds. EV6 is a less efficient car than Tesla model 3 at speed, this can be found online in various places and compard to my model S which is an 8 year old car the 8 year old Tesla is more efficient at higher speeds than EV6. If model S and model 3 which are more efficient cars cannot get to 300 miles then it is nonsense to say ev6 does, why people are misleading other people online amazes me but as far as I’m concerned they are and I’m calling it out. If you buy an EV6 you will not get 300 miles or close to it, battery size, car efficiency rating and kWh per hour have proven that to me, the car is simply too good to be true. EV6 is worth 40k but not much more in my calculations, I would prefer to spend extra money on a Tesla Model 3 long range that will do more miles and has better resale value and better tech but that is my decision based on test drives and the actual mileage I will get out of the car with my driving.

 

[Excalpino]

Chacun a son gout ...as my French teacher used to say.

 

[Andre]

Hey @ElectricIreland,

Amazing you just did the same exact drive as I did 3 times in the past week

So I can get you my percentages.

Did Belfast city center (ormeau road if you wanna be precise) to Dublin airport, at around 65mph the whole way (even down south), and arrived with 72% once parked in Dublin airport. (Drove on my own).
Then back to Belfast, I got back with 36%, was driving with then 3 adults + me, at the speed limits (120 down south, 70 up north).
That was the first drive.

The second time, approximately the same story, I think I got back with 37%.

Yesterday went both ways at the speed limits (speedo 125 down south, 73 up north), I actually stopped at ionity to give it a try, so can't really say how much I used.

The 65mph on my own did exactly 15.0kwh/100km, but the fast one was closer to 18.5kwh/100km.

So driving style makes a massive difference here.

Cheers !

 

[Andre]

Here are the numbers I'm talking about, last 2 drives to Dublin airport. @ElectricIreland

I'm more used to km/h, sorry about that. But posted mph stuff

 

[ElectricIreland]

65mph and 70mph are a big difference in the EV6, at 75mph it dropped down to near 2kwh. I drove in cruise control and in normal mode, I’m not interested in eco mode and normal mode is still slow but on motorway I would put up with it, sport mode would have to be used in city for any type of acceleration. It is horses for courses but as far as my test drives has shown people talking 300 miles are talking nonsense, not with the size of battery nor the efficiency rating.

 

[doodlebug]

I used 3 different cars for the 4 test drives and they all produced the same sort of figures on the test drives for the various speeds. EV6 is a less efficient car than Tesla model 3 at speed, this can be found online in various places and compard to my model S which is an 8 year old car the 8 year old Tesla is more efficient at higher speeds than EV6. If model S and model 3 which are more efficient cars cannot get to 300 miles then it is nonsense to say ev6 does, why people are misleading other people online amazes me but as far as I’m concerned they are and I’m calling it out. If you buy an EV6 you will not get 300 miles or close to it, battery size, car efficiency rating and kWh per hour have proven that to me, the car is simply too good to be true. EV6 is worth 40k but not much more in my calculations, I would prefer to spend extra money on a Tesla Model 3 long range that will do more miles and has better resale value and better tech but that is my decision based on test drives and the actual mileage I will get out of the car with my driving.

Well if it isn't the car, maybe it is down to your driving style as others are getting much better mileage than you.?
I really hope you will be happy with your Tesla.

 

[BBZ]

65mph and 70mph are a big difference in the EV6, at 75mph it dropped down to near 2kwh. I drove in cruise control and in normal mode, I’m not interested in eco mode and normal mode is still slow but on motorway I would put up with it, sport mode would have to be used in city for any type of acceleration. It is horses for courses but as far as my test drives has shown people talking 300 miles are talking nonsense, not with the size of battery nor the efficiency rating.

We are 1500 miles in an average 4.5 but drive in Eco as we find it plenty fast, faster than any car I have driven.. easy 300 range

 

[ElectricIreland]

On all 4 test drives I never got it above 3.5kwh and I got it to 3.5kwh by driving 10mph in eco mode. Eco mode is dreadfully slow however. Easy 300 miles as some are claiming is nonsense as far as I am concerned. Battery size and Efficiency rating would say easy 300 miles doesn't add up.
As I’ve said before the EV6 for motorway driving is not a great choice as you won’t get many miles compared to other more efficient cars with larger batteries. If you are doing city driving mostly and a small amount of motorway driving then EV6 is a viable option. A 72.9kwh battery in the EV6 is limited when other cars have bigger batteries and higher efficiency ratings.

 

[ev6akb]

In terms of net battery capacity I have been told by a Kia dealer who got the figure from a Kia rep at a KV6 launch show that net battery is 72.9kwh. This figure matches my drive stats above when I take in the couple of miles getting onto and off the motorway.

Really doubt this. I charged my car from 5% to 96% in single session and my Bonnet app is showing 76KWh charged.

 

[tangey]

Happy motoring with the Tesla.

 

[Logicpro8]

Also seeing my home Easee charger report in the region of 75kWh to 77kWh charged, leading me to believe Kia's documented battery capacity of 77.6+ I see EV database shows 72... that can't be right.

Just another thing on the range, a real world test of you like, on top of what everyone else has mentioned above which I hope helps you out with range.

I just returned from a trip to England today (Fife to Scarborough) 259 miles trip, mostly motorway, with 2 adults 2 kids and a boot full of cases, 65 > 70mph with the odd overtaking speed..... to 80 all the way down to Scarborough. Car shows live m/kwh estimate of 3.8m/kwh with other screens showing 3.9 and 4.1m/kwh dipping to 2.8 on hills. using the lowest reading of 3.8m/kwh, thats 77.4kwh x 3.8 = 294.12 miles range from a fully charged battery, actually a few weeks ago I tracked a 100% battery range to 1% (scared to go past 1%) with GPS and I was getting 296 miles or something, so it does add up, I think lol.

This was with auto regen braking on BTW which helps a LOT I found out on this trip. Other users are reporting similar behaviour with the car so its either your driving style, not using the car correctly which I get, its a big change and there are lots of things to consider to get the best from the car. When I first got my EV6 I struggled to get past 2.5m/kwh, it took weeks/months of driving adjustment to know how the car drives and how to make it work efficiently. At this stage I wouldn't give up hope on the EV6, it is one of the best EV's you can get just now. Your order will happily be received by someone else though and you move on to test drive a Tesla or an Audi, but having done this already, it's the same deal, driving style and adjustment are needed to get best results.

 

[Mark G]

Also seeing my home Easee charger report in the region of 75kWh to 77kWh charged, leading me to believe Kia's documented battery capacity of 77.6+ I see EV database shows 72... that can't be right.

Just another thing on the range, a real world test of you like, on top of what everyone else has mentioned above which I hope helps you out with range.

I just returned from a trip to England today (Fife to Scarborough) 259 miles trip, mostly motorway, with 2 adults 2 kids and a boot full of cases, 65 > 70mph with the odd overtaking speed..... to 80 all the way down to Scarborough. Car shows live m/kwh estimate of 3.8m/kwh with other screens showing 3.9 and 4.1m/kwh dipping to 2.8 on hills. using the lowest reading of 3.8m/kwh, thats 77.4kwh x 3.8 = 294.12 miles range from a fully charged battery, actually a few weeks ago I tracked a 100% battery range to 1% (scared to go past 1%) with GPS and I was getting 296 miles or something, so it does add up, I think lol.

This was with auto regen braking on BTW which helps a LOT I found out on this trip. Other users are reporting similar behaviour with the car so its either your driving style, not using the car correctly which I get, its a big change and there are lots of things to consider to get the best from the car. When I first got my EV6 I struggled to get past 2.5m/kwh, it took weeks/months of driving adjustment to know how the car drives and how to make it work efficiently. At this stage I wouldn't give up hope on the EV6, it is one of the best EV's you can get just now. Your order will happily be received by someone else though and you move on to test drive a Tesla or an Audi, but having done this already, it's the same deal, driving style and adjustment are needed to get best results.

Hi Jock

Great information...
I need your help...
Just about ready to receive my KIA EV6 AIR , ordered as company car to save on BIK Tax.. I live in Leicester and drive most days visiting customer up the M1 corridor.. I usually drive approx. 80mph in my VW Passat, what range can I expect using my Kia at say constant 80mph,
Please advise
Tks
Mark.

 

[Logicpro8]

Jock55 can also answer on his travels.

I'll give my input, though. 80MPH is speeding The range will be affected by this and the weather. I went through a week on constant 70MPH-75MPH driving on the Edinburgh Bypass and M90 in Fife and say about 290+miles range from 100% battery, that's in ECO mode with either full braking regen on or Auto regen set to say halfway or 3 quarters on.

Slow down to 65-70MPH and no harsh acceleration You will see more range in the summer, come winter time.... this could well drop; last January, I was seeing 240-250 miles max, and that was in Scotland tho, at 0 > -3C most days.

On Monday, I charged to 100%; car shows 326 miles range on the GOM, likely get about 300 ish miles from this with no AC on. Just need to wait and see what winter brings and how the car performs this year with the new driving style of using full braking regn (iPedal) on all the time, no speeding about unless needed and taking in easy in general. Hope to see close to 300 miles. The month I got the car (January 2022) I was racing about no wonder I saw bad range.

The key is getting over 3.8KW/H efficiency, maybe even 4 on some trips. That would be 3.8 x 77.4KW = 294 miles of range. Going at 80MPH you will likely see 3 or something calculating to 232 miles range from a full battery. Do you own calculations though?

The dashboard will give a number like 3.8KW/h for efficiency. Times this by the battery capacity which is known to be 77.4KW = 294. I must be seeing 4.xKW/h if I seeing 3256 miles range. I don't do a lot of fast driving though, 20MPH to 50MPH usually. Some motorway driving.

 

[Mark G]

Jock55 can also answer on his travels.

I'll give my input, though. 80MPH is speeding The range will be affected by this and the weather. I went through a week on constant 70MPH-75MPH driving on the Edinburgh Bypass and M90 in Fife and say about 290+miles range from 100% battery, that's in ECO mode with either full braking regen on or Auto regen set to say halfway or 3 quarters on.

Slow down to 65-70MPH and no harsh acceleration You will see more range in the summer, come winter time.... this could well drop; last January, I was seeing 240-250 miles max, and that was in Scotland tho, at 0 > -3C most days.

On Monday, I charged to 100%; car shows 326 miles range on the GOM, likely get about 300 ish miles from this with no AC on. Just need to wait and see what winter brings and how the car performs this year with the new driving style of using full braking regn (iPedal) on all the time, no speeding about unless needed and taking in easy in general. Hope to see close to 300 miles. The month I got the car (January 2022) I was racing about no wonder I saw bad range.

The key is getting over 3.8KW/H efficiency, maybe even 4 on some trips. That would be 3.8 x 77.4KW = 294 miles of range. Going at 80MPH you will likely see 3 or something calculating to 232 miles range from a full battery. Do you own calculations though?

The dashboard will give a number like 3.8KW/h for efficiency. Times this by the battery capacity which is known to be 77.4KW = 294. I must be seeing 4.xKW/h if I seeing 3256 miles range. I don't do a lot of fast driving though, 20MPH to 50MPH usually. Some motorway driving.

Tks for advise.. looks like 70mph then lol....
regards
mark.

 

[Patiently.Waiting.UK]

I must be seeing 4.xKW/h if I seeing 3256 miles range. I don't do a lot of fast driving though, 20MPH to 50MPH usually. Some motorway driving.

Teach us how to get that range please! 😉

 

[Bkaklinv]

No "normal" driver "needs" the acceleration of sport mode for routine city driving. I LIKE it but can't think of a single driving situation I routinely find myself in that requires a 4.5 second sprint to 60 mph.

If you drive like a douchebag your mileage will suffer. Even in Eco mode the AWD Wind isn't slow by common vehicle standards.

We routinely see actual mid 200s on 80% charge.

Tesla owners seem to be the only consumers who feel compelled to frequent other manufacturers' forums and websites to "educate" members in the errors of their ways.

 

[Nicko001]

Thanks guys. I was also discussing this over at Just how efficient is the EV6? after seeing some really bad ranges from Youtube videos. 250 is where I would like it to be, of course the higher the better and 270 in UK winter is fantastic. Summer time will be great to see and test range then as well.

It also obviously depends on how careful you are driving. Doing 70-80 on the motorway will return you less mileage than 60-70. But I agree the EV6 looks like a good sized family car.