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I did this drive two weeks ago. I stopped at the walmart in Brigham for a few minutes to run inside for some road trip snacks while topping up on the EA charger there. From there I shot up to the Stinker store and charged up. I do not recommend the diner at the stinker store.

I was cruising around 80 and the temps over the summit were about 22*.
Do you recall what your mi/kwh was for that trip? Going south from SLC through Price and Green River to Colorado the speeds are higher but when it's cold we're lucky to get 2.7 and it's really easy to go down to 2.1 if go the speed of most of the other traffic (85+). That makes the Green River EA station REALLY important. Just yesterday someone in a Rivian reported that all 4 stations there were down :rolleyes:.

For our next road trip that direction if it's still cold I plan on stopping at the slower (62kw) free station in Price to completely top off. That way I could make it clear to Grand Junction in the event that EA in Green River is down again. It sure would be nice is EA weren't the only option in that critical location that is so many miles.
 

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Do you recall what your mi/kwh was for that trip? Going south from SLC through Price and Green River to Colorado the speeds are higher but when it's cold we're lucky to get 2.7 and it's really easy to go down to 2.1 if go the speed of most of the other traffic (85+). That makes the Green River EA station REALLY important. Just yesterday someone in a Rivian reported that all 4 stations there were down :rolleyes:.

For our next road trip that direction if it's still cold I plan on stopping at the slower (62kw) free station in Price to completely top off. That way I could make it clear to Grand Junction in the event that EA in Green River is down again. It sure would be nice is EA weren't the only option in that critical location that is so many miles.
I have a GT, so my economy is generally poor. I averaged 2.2/2.3 each way.
 

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I did this drive two weeks ago. I stopped at the walmart in Brigham for a few minutes to run inside for some road trip snacks while topping up on the EA charger there. From there I shot up to the Stinker store and charged up. I do not recommend the diner at the stinker store.

I was cruising around 80 and the temps over the summit were about 22*.
What did you top up to at Brigham City?
To the OP: I drive Idaho Falls to SLC or Idaho Falls to Boise (KIA Niro 2022 EV) a lot. I’ve never had to wait at Brigham or Burley. I prefer the KIA over my 2009 Prius because of the MUCH greater comfort and silence.
I haven’t done that I84 run though. You have that 8500’ pass that looks interesting. Once you cross into the Idaho boundary your efficiency will drop 10% because the ID roads are rough (great for snowy driving though).
As a backup, you can take a level 2 charger with a NEVA 10-50 plug. I see Snowville UT (the half way point) has a plug there. Or charge to 90% at Brigham (that 80-90% charge takes a while!).
I can do Idaho Falls to Brigham city in one sitting but I:
  • Start at home with 100% charge.
  • Drive 72mph.
  • Cut back to 60mph going up Malad Pass.
-Barry
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Do you recall what your mi/kwh was for that trip? Going south from SLC through Price and Green River to Colorado the speeds are higher but when it's cold we're lucky to get 2.7 and it's really easy to go down to 2.1 if go the speed of most of the other traffic (85+). That makes the Green River EA station REALLY important. Just yesterday someone in a Rivian reported that all 4 stations there were down :rolleyes:.

For our next road trip that direction if it's still cold I plan on stopping at the slower (62kw) free station in Price to completely top off. That way I could make it clear to Grand Junction in the event that EA in Green River is down again. It sure would be nice is EA weren't the only option in that critical location that is so many miles.
I’ve never gotten a good charge at that Green River EA. And the coffee shop has never been open.

It would be great if EA put some new units in at the Loves.
 

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I’ve never gotten a good charge at that Green River EA. And the coffee shop has never been open.

It would be great if EA put some new units in at the Loves.
Or ChargePoint installed something there, or even if Tesla upgraded their Superchargers at that location like the test ones in NY.

We have a trip coming up next month through that location so I've been watching the availability on PlugShare. Apparently all 4 stations have been completely down since March 16! :oops: Not good for people who were expecting/needing to charge there, which is likely most non-Teslas.

If we top up to 100% in Price and it isn't too cold and we don't go nuts with the speed we should be able to make it all the way to Grand Junction if Green River is down again or still. However will have a L2 charger with us in the car so the [MUCH slower so less desirable] plan B is to use it at the Loves, which has 14-50 plugs.
 

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I just had a chat with EA about the Green River location being completely down (since Mar16) and according to someone waiting there reporting on PlugShare that they told them it was scheduled for repair March 21. Here is the transcript. Sorry about the crude formatting but you can still get the idea:

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Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:13:42 PM): Hey Jim! My name is Maria, what can I help you with today?

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:16:02 PM): Hi Maria, We are planning a trip that passes through southern Utah. The ONLY station in that part of the state is located in Green River Utah. According to PlugShare that location has had NO working stations since March 16th and someone reported that a repair isn't scheduled unto March 21! That seems like a very long time for such a critical location to be unavailable. You are going to strand a lot of drivers

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:16:22 PM): Thank you for chatting with Electrify America, I am happy to look into our Green River location for you today.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:18:19 PM): Out team does have an open work order to get this station back online. This being said our team does realize how important every charger is to the EV community. Our goal is to provide a seamless charging experience each and every time. We hope to have this station back online as soon as possible so our customers can travel in confidence.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:19:22 PM): That sounds nice but doesn't help when the nearest charger is a hundred miles away and people are sitting there stuck. Is there no way the repair can be expedited?
Jim (3/18/2023, 1:19:54 PM): We are very worried that we won't be able to use it when we need to

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:19:54 PM): I understand how inconvenient this may be. Additionally I will share the need for other charging stations in this area that will be able to cover the needs of the EV community.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:20:44 PM): That is understandable. We hope to have this station back online very soon.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:21:15 PM): Can you elaborate on your idea of what "very soon" is?

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:22:03 PM): There is not a time frame that I have at this time as to when this station will be back online. This being said, you can sign up to be notified in the app be selecting the bell icon on this station / chargers.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:22:24 PM): Is there anything else I can assist you with today Jim?

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:04 PM): OK I'll do that. But I am still worried you aren't actually taking it seriously

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:23:21 PM): I can assure you I am as is our team. Our team does have an active work order for this station.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:29 PM): This isn't like most of your other locations where there are ANY other options

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:23:32 PM): Our team takes keeping all stations online very seriously.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:50 PM): That does not seem to be the case if the repair isn't scheduled until 3/21

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:24:26 PM): Thank you for sharing your feedback. I will pass this along to our team so they can evaluate your concerns.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:24:27 PM): Can you please escalate this matter to your superiors?

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:19 PM): Yes, I can pass along your feedback to our team. I will pass along how important this station is.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:32 PM): I will also share that you need this station up sooner than what is listed on PlugShare.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:25:41 PM): OK Thank you. That is all for today
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:54 PM): It's my pleasure. Thank you for chatting with Electrify America. Have a great day.
 

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I just had a chat with EA about the Green River location being completely down (since Mar16) and according to someone waiting there reporting on PlugShare that they told them it was scheduled for repair March 21. Here is the transcript. Sorry about the crude formatting but you can still get the idea:

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Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:13:42 PM): Hey Jim! My name is Maria, what can I help you with today?

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:16:02 PM): Hi Maria, We are planning a trip that passes through southern Utah. The ONLY station in that part of the state is located in Green River Utah. According to PlugShare that location has had NO working stations since March 16th and someone reported that a repair isn't scheduled unto March 21! That seems like a very long time for such a critical location to be unavailable. You are going to strand a lot of drivers

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:16:22 PM): Thank you for chatting with Electrify America, I am happy to look into our Green River location for you today.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:18:19 PM): Out team does have an open work order to get this station back online. This being said our team does realize how important every charger is to the EV community. Our goal is to provide a seamless charging experience each and every time. We hope to have this station back online as soon as possible so our customers can travel in confidence.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:19:22 PM): That sounds nice but doesn't help when the nearest charger is a hundred miles away and people are sitting there stuck. Is there no way the repair can be expedited?
Jim (3/18/2023, 1:19:54 PM): We are very worried that we won't be able to use it when we need to

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:19:54 PM): I understand how inconvenient this may be. Additionally I will share the need for other charging stations in this area that will be able to cover the needs of the EV community.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:20:44 PM): That is understandable. We hope to have this station back online very soon.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:21:15 PM): Can you elaborate on your idea of what "very soon" is?

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:22:03 PM): There is not a time frame that I have at this time as to when this station will be back online. This being said, you can sign up to be notified in the app be selecting the bell icon on this station / chargers.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:22:24 PM): Is there anything else I can assist you with today Jim?

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:04 PM): OK I'll do that. But I am still worried you aren't actually taking it seriously

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:23:21 PM): I can assure you I am as is our team. Our team does have an active work order for this station.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:29 PM): This isn't like most of your other locations where there are ANY other options

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:23:32 PM): Our team takes keeping all stations online very seriously.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:23:50 PM): That does not seem to be the case if the repair isn't scheduled until 3/21

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:24:26 PM): Thank you for sharing your feedback. I will pass this along to our team so they can evaluate your concerns.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:24:27 PM): Can you please escalate this matter to your superiors?

Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:19 PM): Yes, I can pass along your feedback to our team. I will pass along how important this station is.
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:32 PM): I will also share that you need this station up sooner than what is listed on PlugShare.

Jim (3/18/2023, 1:25:41 PM): OK Thank you. That is all for today
Live Chat - Maria (3/18/2023, 1:25:54 PM): It's my pleasure. Thank you for chatting with Electrify America. Have a great day.
Well done jsharpe. Although it shouldn't be our job to ask EA to expedite charger repair and maintenance, that's what the situation is at the moment. ChargePoint units at Loves is a great idea - give EA some competition.
 

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Well, we're back. And here's my general travelog, mostly going by memory:

Pulled out of the south end of Salt Lake County at 97% charge. Temps were in the 30s-40s the whole trip. Kept general pace of traffic at 75-80 mph. Kept it in Eco mode the whole time. Averaged about 3.2 m/kwh to Brigham City. Stopped at the Walmart at about 72%. I couldn't get my EA app to accept payment from my iPhone wallet at the charger, and got frustrated trying, so I just used a credit card to top to 90%. For some reason the pre-conditioning default turned itself off, so it was very slow. I think it maxed out at around 48 kw. There was a Chevy Bolt at the other 350kw charger. Didn't see anyone else.

The next leg is very hilly, and the speed limit is faster, so my range dropped reasonably significantly. Averaged about 2.7 m/kwh, keeping roughly 80mph pace. Arrived in Burley with about 33% charge. I academically probably would have made it without stopping in in Brigham, but it would have been tight. Sister-in-law's place pretty remote. I probably could have made it there and then back to the charger in the morning as well, but I decided to not roll the dice. I charged at EA, this time having pre-conditioned. I'm here to testify that pre-conditioning is the move, though it does seem to drop the efficiency by about .2-.3 m/kwh for about 20-25 minutes. This time the charger maxed out around 190kw. 33% to 80% took about 15 minutes. Again, I couldn't make the fast-pay from my wallet work, and I used a credit card. Drove to my S-I-L's place and arrived with about 68%. Glad I didn't risk it without topping off. Saw a Mach-E and another EV6 at the charger. The other EV6 couldn't get his charger to stay online for more than a few minutes at a time. He moved over to the one I was using after I left.

I was able to Level 1 charge at her place, so it reached about 85% before we took it to Twin Falls the next day. We spent a couple of hours up there and headed back with around 50%. Decided to not try the ChargePoint chargers in Twin Falls. Preconditioned again, and hit the EAs with about 18%. Never saw better than 3m/kwh the whole time. I didn't try the fast-pay from my wallet this time, and instead went through the EA app by selecting station and charger, and it worked. Not sure why I didn't think to do that in the first place. My bad. Pre-conditioned again this time. Topped off to 80% in about 30 minutes and then headed back to S-I-L's place, and plugged in at Level 1.

This morning we had a couple of errands to run, and I hit the EA chargers before we left town. I was at 74% and planned to charge to 100% before we hit the road. Things got away from me and I forgot to pre-condition again. So charging was VERY slow. I should have taken the 150 kw charger, but since no one else was there, I didn't think too hard about it. Maxed out around 33kw, but probably averaged closer to 25. When I arrived I was the only one there, but while I sat there a Model 3 pulled up and took two spaces to charge so the cable would reach his charge port (weird, because there are Tesla chargers a couple of miles down the road.) A Mercedes EQS pulled up and took the other spot (where I saw the EV6 the other day who couldn't keep it online). He got out and eyeballed the Tesla guy pretty hard, because he was blocking the other 350 kw charger. I gave up at 95% and we got on the road. Probably good, because the EQS guy went into the gas station didn't get a chance to see how slowly I was charging at the "hyper speed" charger. I hope he moved over when I left. (Also we watched a Model Y block a fuel pump for about 40 minutes while she walked her dog around. Even though there was plenty of parking elsewhere.)

By the time we actually got on the freeway, we were at about 90%. The stop in Brigham was not academic this time. I saw around 2.6 m/kwh. Pre-conditioned and rolled into Walmart with about 35%. Charged to 80% in about 17 minutes. Maxed around 190 kw, but averaged closer to 120. Got about 3 m/kwh the rest of the way. Arrived in SLC at about 45%.

Disclaimers: I'm going off the best of my recollection, I didn't keep written or accurate notes. If my numbers don't completely line up, I'm probably just not remembering them exactly. I know I could have slowed my speed down to increase range. I decided to accept the lower economy to not be in the way of traffic. I got passed by an Ioniq 5 at one point who must have been going 90. We didn't use the climate control extensively, it was set to 68-70 degrees most of the drive, and it never got warmer outside than about 45 degrees. Ventilated seats are very nice on long drives. I used cruise control for the majority of highway travel. I'm not sure I like the lane-keeping feature. I felt like I was wrestling with the car a lot. I definitely don't like letting it change lanes for me. I do like adaptive cruise. We had two adults and one adult-size child in the car. On the way home, we had about 30 bottles of wine which might account for the slight decrease in range on the way home. I'll be curious to see how my efficiency is changed when it's warm. We will be doing it again in June.

[Edit] Should note I also had the regen on auto the entire time.
 
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