Kia EV6 Forum banner
61 - 80 of 82 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
506 Posts
It's not and was never MEANT to be a pure luxury car. You want pure Luxury get the GV60, they are very luxurious and opulent. But it is also not without its luxury features, hardly bereft of any luxury.
I like the GV60 but two things are holding me back - 1) Genesis won't allow GV60s to be serviced outside the states it is sold in so I'd have to flatbed it from FL to another state (see Genesis forums) and 2) In the Redline Review comparison.. it's a step down from the i4 M50 and I'd want something even nicer.


The GT fits the bill of a fun trackable car - without the GV60/i4 luxury (which is fine).
 

· Registered
2023 EV6 GT Yacht Blue
Joined
·
259 Posts
Reason #562 NOT to buy Tesla. Bluetooth TPMS sensors. When the rest of the world uses 315 or 433mhz tpms sensors, Tesla went bluetooth, must be to match up with the oversized Ipad they use for user interface.
 

· Registered
2023 EV6 GT Yacht Blue
Joined
·
259 Posts
Why are the bluetooth worse?
Very few options for aftermarket replacement, pretty much forced to buy them from Tesla for whatever they feel like charging on that day. Also no ability to try and swap wheels to/from other vehicles. Just Tesla doing their own thing making things more complex rather than using an already standardized commodity item that has worked well for decades. I am shocked they did not design their own wheel bolt pattern and windshield wiper blade lengths that nobody else uses.

Tesla is the Apple Macintosh of the car industry, everything is theirs and proprietary and only they are allowed to work on it or provide parts, completely anti competition.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
306 Posts
Dunno if anyone remembers the Subaru TV and print ad where every house on the block looked exactly the same with the exact same car in the driveway. That block in the ad is a mile from here and triggered petty building code changes here in town to bust up the styling in neighborhoods.

In spite, our block is starting to look that way with all the Teslas. We're the only EV6 and everyone asks about it. I'm still beside myself being able to charge at home off sunlight. The reason we're on the list for the new Denali EV.



Like I've mentioned in other posts when the EV6 shipment arrived at the dealer all the others went to Tesla owners trading them in. The Kia dealer doesn't resell the Teslas, they go off to a used EV car business.
As for Kia dealer selection we figure one in 10 is ethical. The unethethical are owned by Slumlord millionaires. Talking to the lot donkeys will give you a good indication if that is the case.

We cover vast distances driving. Range is everything and wager a GT will soon enough hit the showroom floor with a 100 KW battery(s) or larger. It's big big complaint. Their are a few things on the EV6 that could be lightened to help make up for the extra weight of the batteries.
 

· Registered
KIA EV6 Wind AWD Glacier White
Joined
·
736 Posts
Well, don't forget that Tesla was raising prices all year long last year, now they are just bringing them back where they used to be. Kia has only raised prices by $1,000 if I remember correctly. But they had some dealers adding markups due to high demand.
Don't get me wrong, I like the car manufacturers to compete for customers rather than buyers chasing dealers for a new car. Some people are getting carried around by Tesla price cuts while they forget how quickly Tesla was raising prices last year. The graph below is from Car Gurus website, they track car prices.

Rectangle Slope Font Parallel Screenshot
 

· Registered
Joined
·
306 Posts
Good points.


Well don't forget that Tesla was raising prices all year long last year, now they are just bringing them back where they used to be. Kia has only raised prices by $1,000 if I remember correctly. But they had some dealers adding markups due to high demand.
Don't get me wrong, I like the car manufacturers to compete for customers rather than buyers chasing dealers for a new car. Some people are getting carried around by Tesla price cuts while they forget how quickly Tesla was raising prices last year. The graph below is from Car Gurus website, they track car prices.

View attachment 11431
 

· Registered
Joined
·
506 Posts
GTs are definitely in demand. The FL dealers I've pinged have sold them or are a customer's order... but what is super surprising is how badly the demand for Wind/GT-Line has fallen. Dealers are pinging me back asking if I want the lower trims (nope). There are a dozen plus Winds in central Florida available today at MSRP - and probably soon slightly under MSRP.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
506 Posts
Well, don't forget that Tesla was raising prices all year long last year, now they are just bringing them back where they used to be. Kia has only raised prices by $1,000 if I remember correctly. But they had some dealers adding markups due to high demand.
Don't get me wrong, I like the car manufacturers to compete for customers rather than buyers chasing dealers for a new car. Some people are getting carried around by Tesla price cuts while they forget how quickly Tesla was raising prices last year. The graph below is from Car Gurus website, they track car prices.

View attachment 11431
Wholesale Tesla prices have collapsed since July and honestly... I'm seeing the demand for EVs basically evaporate too.

Ecoregion Slope Azure Rectangle Plot
 

· Registered
Joined
·
306 Posts
I like all EVs, even that ridiculous but nicely styled new Mazda EV.
Don't sell Musk short.
Yeah he said screwball things and does screwball things but I don't doubt he'll keep Tesla out in front.

Starting to see Tesla owners using the EVGo and Electrify America stations located within sight of Tesla chargers.
That'll be a problem we don't need. Got enough EV charger congestion already.

Plus the Tesla chargers are appearing with 1777/SAE "nozzles." Dunno how that'll shake out. Crowded already.
 

· Registered
2023 EV6 GT Yacht Blue
Joined
·
259 Posts
I like all EVs, even that ridiculous but nicely styled new Mazda EV.
Don't sell Musk short.
Yeah he said screwball things and does screwball things but I don't doubt he'll keep Tesla out in front.

Starting to see Tesla owners using the EVGo and Electrify America stations located within sight of Tesla chargers.
That'll be a problem we don't need. Got enough EV charger congestion already.

Plus the Tesla chargers are appearing with 1777/SAE "nozzles." Dunno how that'll shake out. Crowded already.
Not sure where you are located, are you seeing the 1772 on Tesla chargers? I have heard rumors, but yet to hear it confirmed here in the US.

Are the Tesla folks you are seeing on ccs because Tesla chargers are full? Just proves opening superchargers is not the golden goose many think it is. Many prime spots the Tesla chargers are always full during any peak travel times.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
 

· Registered
Joined
·
336 Posts
Not sure where you are located, are you seeing the 1772 on Tesla chargers? I have heard rumors, but yet to hear it confirmed here in the US.

Are the Tesla folks you are seeing on ccs because Tesla chargers are full? Just proves opening superchargers is not the golden goose many think it is. Many prime spots the Tesla chargers are always full during any peak travel times.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
The busiest chargers are the ones in the middle of a city where non home buyers need to charge on a regular basis. The ones that are on major highways are rarely full...I did the Thanksgiving trip from so-cal to nor-cal and the chargers were mainly 1/3rd full. Of course a lot of these highway ones had like 50 Superchargers running at 250kw so plenty of charge points. I've used CCS and Superchargers...Tesla's solutions are 1000x better.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
306 Posts
I thought the feuds and drama and out foxing each other and cutting each other off was probably unusual but we’ve seen it several times at the Baker Ca Tesla chargers next to the EA’s.

Several YouTube channels have experienced the same.

Some talk of a virtual cue on the Tesla app may be forthcoming if not already.

Probably why we see Teslas at the EA’s chargers in peace, drama free.
 

· Registered
KIA EV6 Wind AWD Glacier White
Joined
·
736 Posts
Wholesale Tesla prices have collapsed since July and honestly... I'm seeing the demand for EVs basically evaporate too.

View attachment 11458
With the interest rates raising much demand will evaporate. $50-60K is still a lot of money to pay for a car. The gas prices also came down a little and is hard to justify an EV. Plenty of reasons for demand to dwindle.
 

· Registered
2023 EV6 GT Yacht Blue
Joined
·
259 Posts
I thought the feuds and drama and out foxing each other and cutting each other off was probably unusual but we’ve seen it several times at the Baker Ca Tesla chargers next to the EA’s.

Several YouTube channels have experienced the same.

Some talk of a virtual cue on the Tesla app may be forthcoming if not already.

Probably why we see Teslas at the EA’s chargers in peace, drama free.
Ohh just wait, they will bring their drama to EA network too. Just like when people move from an area they lived in because "it went bad" and then they make the same choices in the new place and turn it into what they left..
 

· Registered
Joined
·
56 Posts
GTs are definitely in demand. The FL dealers I've pinged have sold them or are a customer's order... but what is super surprising is how badly the demand for Wind/GT-Line has fallen. Dealers are pinging me back asking if I want the lower trims (nope). There are a dozen plus Winds in central Florida available today at MSRP - and probably soon slightly under MSRP.
Lower trim buyers are all broke AF right now. Car sales on anything under 60k will be absolutely terrible across the board until 2024 at the earliest.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
2,049 Posts
Not sure where you are located, are you seeing the 1772 on Tesla chargers? I have heard rumors, but yet to hear it confirmed here in the US.

Are the Tesla folks you are seeing on ccs because Tesla chargers are full? Just proves opening superchargers is not the golden goose many think it is. Many prime spots the Tesla chargers are always full during any peak travel times.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
In Canada, the V3 SuC are 3.7x more expensive than Electrify Canada ($2.15/min vs 57¢/min) above 180kW.

Even at 60-100kW, you’re above EC’s pricing. You have to be charging below 60kW to beat EC’s pricing. So SuC here is expensive so we’re seeing a lot more Tesla owners on CCS chargers because of it.
 
61 - 80 of 82 Posts
Top