thank you for sharing. I'm planning to install Defender 2 in June.

 

Check tire rack.com for sure. I believe 4 tires cost me $1,050 and then got a $110 rebate card cause they were on sale from Michelin. Costed me $70 for my service center to put on. It would have been $1,400 if I had bought straight from them. The $390 saved was worth the extra 10 minutes to put the tires in the car (they all fit at once) and drive to the service center.

 

I bought Nokian One from Walmart, I bought many tires from Tire rack.com over the years and they are a great company, but if you are patient you can find better discounts around.
I have not installed the new tires yet and I cannot comment on them. They are low rolling resistance, all season.

 

New TPMS is the biggest cost around $250 in costco

 

Pretty happy with the Hankook ion evo AS that I recently got. They're very quiet.

 

what change in range did you notice

 

I have CrossClimate2 tires on our second car (Chevy Volt) and those tires are great. Very good winter performance for a not dedicated snow tire. I suspect they come with a small range penalty as others have mentioned. I may get them for my EV6 when the time comes, but I'll see what the tire landscape looks like then.

 

I have CrossClimate2... I suspect they come with a small range penalty...

Love CC2s, but the last set cost me 10% in mileage (Escape hybrid) compared with worn out OEM Ecopia's. This is my first EV, and it's even more sensitive to losses than the hybrid. It's striking how range has risen coming out of winter!

Which has me thinking... Since the best snow tires (latest X-Ice and Haka R5) have very low RR, perhaps there's additional justification for summer/winter tires, where the summer tire is biased more toward performance than RR, since the weather isn't killing the range?

 

for me, i take the longest trips in the summer and i'm looking to maximize summer range. I'm curious to know about the efficiency of hankook evo

 

As you approach the need for new tires, several options align with your preferences. For reduced road noise, wet performance, and longevity, consider the list of tires recommendations for wet weather driving. Michelin CrossClimate SUV or the Continental CrossContact LX25. Both offer comfortable rides, wet traction, and durability. The Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus provides similar benefits, known for longevity and wet grip.

 

I just ordered Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive from Walmart, they are on sale for $167.23 + tax for 235/55R19 105V XL size.
Pirelli SCORPION WEATHERACTIVE All Weather 235/55R19 105V XL SUV/Crossover Tire - Walmart.com

In addition Pirelli offers $80 rebate until April 2nd Promo Pirelli

@avh How are the Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActives working out? I'm about to order them myself.

 

Walmart cancelled my order, I think their supplier ran out. I ended up purchasing Nokian One for about the same price. I have not installed them yet.

 

I am considering trying the Nokian Outpost APT, a new-ish all-weather tire, as an alternative to Michelin CC2. The tire comes in 235/55 R 19 105H XL, with an H speed rating instead of a V. I assume that will not be a problem given the load rating, but can anyone confirm?

 

Anyone seen this? Not familiar with either tire line, and I hate the lack of a "normal" reference tire, but it's data, out yesterday. And you can buy them in the US!!

 

Update on Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive for my 2022 Wind AWD size 235/55R19 105V XL:

They're WAY better than the stock tires (Kumho Krugen HP71) in every regard. I've experienced better grip on dry, better grip on wet, and they're 3-peak snowflake rated so I can't wait to take them to the mountains this winter.

The increased sidewall stiffness really shows - I felt the original tires were 'squishy', and these are solid. The increased load capacity makes me feel much safer when going over bumps and that I can take turns a bit harder without the tires warping, as well as more confident carrying heavy loads. The increased top speed is something I wanted, as I realized after-the-fact that I'd accidentally drove over the top rated speed for the HP71's a time or two.

The HP71's were in need of replacing after ~20,000 miles, and had some uneven wear so didn't all qualify for manufacturer replacement, and I'm really glad I went out on a limb and tried something different. The starting tread depth is more (12/32nds instead of 9/32nds) and the material is stronger so I have a good feeling they'll last a lot longer.

If the WeatherActives make any added noise at all, it's disregardable. EV-specific tires definitely look like a gimmick now, or maybe they're more of a help in the "stiff riding" Teslas. I'm only perceiving the sound of rubber being picked up at low speeds (10-15mph) with the windows down, which is normal for brand-new tires and should disappear with a little wear. No inner foam and they still have no highway hum.

I'll try to provide an update on efficiency after breaking them in, new stickyness pulling it down of course and I never recorded efficiency on the first couple thousand miles of the original tires to compare. Given that the tires are made of a stronger material I don't actually think or feel yet like they're any less efficient. I live in a hilly area so I don't want to give any short-trip numbers. The old tires had less rolling resistance right before replacing simply because they had been worn down below 5/32nds.

 

Good intel, we used to prefer Pirellis for reasons I can't recall. Do you have an update on efficiency/range?

 

I know this has been going on for while, but I had to get new tires on my 2022 FE. I was able to get 60000 miles out of the Continental Cross Contact that came stock on the car. They were a good tire, but I decided to get the Yokahama GEOLANDAR X-CV. One of the reasons is due to availability. A lot of the tires for this car are back ordered. I had Yokahamas on other cars and thought they were a good car. After 3000 miles I am giving a thumbs up to this tire for ride, grip and limited noise. Just my 2 cents.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

 

Closing-in on 28K, and looking at replacements
The Kumho Crugen HP71's have served me well, but have some Hankook ion SUV EV tires queued-up (probably pulling the trigger next week). A little cheaper (PriorityTire has them for about $225 each), and from what I've been able to find, folks have been pretty happy with them.

Posting this to see if anyone here has good/bad experience with the Hankook's.

 

I’m curious about the Hankooks as well. I think I’m coming up on time to replace my Continentals on my GT-Line. How the heck did you get 60k out of these? I’m only at like 26k.

 

I'd guess that the vast majority of those 60K miles were driven at below highway speeds.

 

Sharing a bit of my experience with the Hankook tires. Those OEM Kuhmos lasted about 30.3K miles on my GT-Line. When I was researching the Hankook iON evo SUV tires, random Google search showed that Walmart was having them on sale at $209 apiece at the time, so I price matched them at Discount Tire. After $80 Hankook rebate, everything came to about $920 for four tires with no DT certificate.

I've had about 7K on them now. Comared to the Kumho tires, I feel that they are slightly quieter and have slightly better energy efficiency. I live in Arizona where rainy or snowy conditions are rare, so I don't have any sense of how the handling is under those road conditions. Really enjoy the tires so far!

 

My Kumho‘s are approaching 30k miles - time for new shoes.

Curious if anybody has bought Yokohama YK-CTX tires? I found the Kumho’s terrible in snow. While I currently live in NM, I’ll be moving to IL next year and need something that can handle cold/snowy weather. I’ll be in an apartment so won’t have space for a spare set of winter tires.

Based purely on winter driving, the Michelin Cross Climate are a top choice, but I don‘t like the impact on range. The Defender2‘s seem great but I think I would need to get a set of winter tires.

Reviewing options, the Yokohama YK-CTX seem to be a decent compromise in terms of winter performance and EV suitability. However, I have not found any EV6 owners who have tried them. Anybody know what gives?

 

Curious if anybody has bought Yokohama YK-CTX tires? I found the Kumho’s terrible in snow. While I currently live in NM, I’ll be moving to IL next year and need something that can handle cold/snowy weather. I’ll be in an apartment so won’t have space for a spare set of winter tires.

I don't have any experience with the Yokohama YK-CTX but I looked it up. I didn't see any indication that it has the Severe Snow Service Rating like the Michelin CrossClimates, which is something that I believe you would want. I also noticed that the Yokohamas are only available through Discount Tire dealers, which may account for lack of EV6 reviewers (i.e., not as widely available).

Personally, I am looking at the Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive as my replacement to the OEM 20" Continental CrossContact RX, as it is top rated on TireRack.com and has the Severe Snow Service Rating. EV6 reviewers indicated a slight loss of range and slightly higher noise, but reasonable all-weather performance tradeoffs to me. I like to replace tires in the Fall but the OEM treadwear isn't there yet, even after 22K miles.

 

@Ev6extreme, have you actually measured your tread depth? Looks can be deceiving.

Oops, sorry, I see your post was from March 2023. (The question still stands though, lol.)

 

I got a set of HANKOOK ION EVO AS SUV tires this past April, and I like them quite a bit. I don't tend to drive aggressively, and I appreciate the low rolling resistance as it has helped a bit on increased efficiency.

 

From the 10,000 foot level...

There are classes of tires.

Unless you can support dedicated winter tires, the biggest feature for snow performance is tread compound. Summer tires are UNACCEPTABLE in snow, because their rubber gets hard below 40F. I'm not talking track tires here. Sadly, many "all-season" tires are really 3-season at best. See how bad Michelin Primacy did.

The new "all weather" category is a great option, if you can accept the other tradeoffs, and need drift-breaking snow traction. I had dedicated snows for most of my 50 years driving, and lose nothing mounting CrossClimate2.

This video demonstrates these factors.

• Michelin Primacy are "summer" 3-season tires, with little traction below 40F.
• Bridgestone Ecopia are also labeled "all season" tires, but they work far better in snow.
• Firestone Weathergrips are an "all weather" tire like CrossClimate2, so a step better...
• But then they included Blizzaks, with their famously short warm weather tread life.

I owned Ecopia's and found them acceptable in snow. Family cars are all on CrossClimate+/CrossClimate2. That said, CC2 are not low RR. I'm planning a set of Ion Evos for the low RR. Hoping for a modern version of the Ecopias. Ask me in April.

 

Just came across this compilation of all-weather tire tests. Several include "summer" and "winter" tire controls, leading to a discussion of the 40F temperature threshold. I'm an old autocrosser, who has driven race rubber in snow. It's real.

 

I also went with Cross climate 2s. I probably would have gone with something else, except I'm in MN so I wanted a tire that could handle at least a bit of winter.

 

We've been very happy with them on two ICE vehicles.

 

Buying used tires mail order is hinky at best, just remember that tires have a date of manufacture for a reason. If you send them back, plan of spending about at least $50 a tire shipping depending on distance.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/new-old-tires/

 

Buying used tires mail order is hinky at best, just remember that tires have a date of manufacture for a reason.

I agree. While the utires.com website does a good job showing details and photos of the actual tires they are reselling, the date of manufacture is notably absent.

 

The Michelin Defender LTX MS was discontinued ~2020, so new old stock are already a few years old, as good as the Defenders are and having used them on several vehicles in the past myself, there are excellent current production tires available.

 

Pirelli Scorpion Zero AS Plus 3 does look good so far except for the 33lb weight. Think I'm still with the Hankook Ion Evo AS SUV, another tire not rated by Tire Rack, but a lot of Tesla owner reviews on the net.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...=Scorpion+Zero+AS+Plus+3&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=355VR9SZASP3XLNCS&tab=Sizes
https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...ook&tireModel=iON+evo+AS+SUV&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=355VR9IH01AXL&tab=Sizes

 

Think I'm still with the Hankook Ion Evo AS SUV, another tire not rated by Tire Rack.

They haven't tested the "SUV" version, but they do have a comparison test video of the regular version against some other tires. I think the difference is primarily in available sizes and load ratings. They should at least be similar.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...ook-ion-evo-as?srsltid=AfmBOopx09KKkl7aEM_SDmfzEHQkKs24OpC3T__0l1n4fUxQvACCqUbS

EDIT: Even Kumho's product pages shows the same features, and has tabs between the two in the specs section. As far as I can see, they don't share any sizes. You either get the AS, or the AS SUV, depending on what size you need. https://www.hankooktire.com/us/en/tire/ion/evo-as-suv.html

 

I just put a set of Michelin Primacy A/S 235 /55 R19 101V SL they replaced Bridgestone Drive guards they weighed 41 lbs, the Michelins weigh 27 lbs. The new ride is smooth and quiet.