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I'm in the Australian queue for EV6

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We're a little behind the rest of the world with the EV6.

Kia sales guy reluctantly took an order from me today. I think he was most peeved that he had to do a PAPER order as the car is not even in there system for placing orders.

No idea of specs, no idea of colours, no idea of much at all....he had seen one in the country.

I'm banking on some in Melbourne for the Australian Open Tennis as Kia are the major sponsor

Deposit paid, his guess for delivery was June....waiting waiting
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Hey Andy, yes correct. The two - 9 x 370W strings are paralleled into input 2 on the sunny boy via 20 amp blocking diodes.
Bieng east / west orientation, I never get the full output of the two strings, more like a spread of power over the day.
Works really well actually. The diodes are connected at the breakers. very elegant if I must say so myself !
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Hi Dave,

Hmmm that's and interesting way to wire the panels, haven't seen that before ?

Did you get your Zappi installed ?

Got all my new panels racked and mounted, wiring to the inverter done, shouldn't
be too long before introducing some fresh electrons :LOL: :cool:
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Zappi installed, just need to wire into the new breaker sub panel ( which I haven't started yet ! )
Power cable is run.
Comms cable is run
CT cable is run.

Just got to get my act together and get the sub panel done !




"Hmmm that's and interesting way to wire the panels, haven't seen that before ? "

How so ?
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This is how it was with the two strings north plus the 2 single strings east and west.
Blocking diodes on the east west to stop one reverse biasing the other at the beginning / end of that day.
Diodes on north because I had morning shade on the north east string, and then afternoon shade on the north west string.

The diodes stop any reversed bias going back into the shaded string.
Because the PV panels are a high impedance current source, the shaded ( or worse aligned string ) voltage can increase to the same voltage as the other string, and thus forward biasing that diode and contributing power to the circuit.

Fascinating to watch the string voltages as the MPPT did its thing !

A few "engineers" told me it wouldn't work, which is why I tried it ! and yes, it definitely does work !!

The breakers are DC type and thus polarity conscious.

Having each leg go thru 2 breakers in series gives much better isolation in case of arcing if the breaker trips under load.
Removing the bottom links and replacing with diodes was an elegant solution for me :)

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Thanks for the explanation mate, that now makes sense with two sets
of panels producing optimally at different times of the day. Clever solution,
I guess most would have left it to the panels built in blocking diodes, but
this may be more effective at it's on the whole string, they must be
pretty beefy diodes !

So soon there'll be a ceremonial, removing of the plastic off the
Type 2 connector :LOL: :cool::cool::cool:
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indeed there will be !

Gave her a wash today and just stood back and admired. What a stunning car both visually and mechanically.

Getting a few very puzzled looks . Peeps just don't know what it is !
panels built in blocking diodes
Not really. Those are bypass diodes to allow the current from generating cells to bypass cells that are not generating. The don't stop the panel from reverse biasing.

In fact, in snowing climates, there is a trick that you can reverse bias the panels to heat them up and melt off the snow !

Then once the snow is gone, remove the bias and let the panels produce.

Have to have very careful control over voltage and amps , but works a treat apparently.

Because each solar cell is effectively a diode ( 0.6V ) in a big string to get to say 40 volts, if you apply reverse bias higher that the panels open circuit voltage rating , the cell "diodes" will bias on and conduct.
If paralleled with another string that is producing power, that power gets dumped into the shaded panels and doesn't get to the inverter. Ultimately damaging the shaded panels.

The diodes were standard off the shelf 1000v 20 amp jobbies. a couple of bucks each.

I actually saw some MC4 connector diodes on Allie express. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003198899356.html

Easy solution !
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Hmmm that's and interesting way to wire the panels, haven't seen that before ?

Just for clarity

in the quad breaker block. ( one for each string of panels )
breakers numbered 1 - 4 from left to right

positive from 1 string of panels into the top of breaker 1
positive from that string of panels to the inverter out of the top of breaker 2 with a diode forward biased between the bottom of breakers 1 & 2


Negating from the same string of panels into the top of breaker 4
Negative from that string of panels to the inverter out of the top of breaker 3 with a diode forward biased between the bottom of breakers 3 & 4

Blocking diodes on both the positive and negative leads just to be sure ( negatives are normally all common'd at the inverter, so probably not required and are normally grounded as well )
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Thanks for the clarification Dave, I'm going to draw that out later as a schematic.

Can visualise it better like that LOL !

Those MC4s are a good idea and insanely cheap...funny how it's only 9c dearer
between the 10A and 30A versions !

Love all this solar stuff, can't get enough of it, have solar powered gate opener, I modified
a commercial garage door opener to be solar powered and my modem/nbn is on another
separate system, plus of course the house off grid system (y)
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No word on my car, but my charging cable arrived today.
A tiny bit disappointed - part of my selection criteria for the cable was a white and black colouring that would go with my white and black car.
So I ordered this one:

The green LED on the back of it is almost like the GT lime green highlights too, so it was perfect from a colour perspective.
But when it arrived, the white part is an ugly mid grey. Not white at all. :(
First world problems I know. :LOL:
Wish my car would hurry TF up though.
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Yes it is very good fun ........ until you let the magic smoke out :unsure: :oops: :cry:
No word on my car
Bloody heck Steyr, must be getting close surely !!

I can guarantee that the wait will be worth it. The EV6 is a truly amazing bit of kit and throw in some of that GT goodness and you will not stop smiling !!
I can guarantee that the wait will be worth it.
Maybe. But by the time I get it, there may well be newer and better models available.
The Ionic 5N should be announced soon. Even though I don't like the styling, it will likely be a better performer than the EV6 GT.
Or I'll have my car for 2 weeks and they'll announce the 2024 uplift with better range, ventilated seats, and even faster performance. :rolleyes:
Maybe. But by the time I get it, there may well be newer and better models available.
The Ionic 5N should be announced soon. Even though I don't like the styling, it will likely be a better performer than the EV6 GT.
Or I'll have my car for 2 weeks and they'll announce the 2024 uplift with better range, ventilated seats, and even faster performance. :rolleyes:

I know what you mean !
And even if true, THIS ev6 is very very special.
I know I'm being very pessimistic here, but a rise in the LCT threshold has been announced, to kick in from July 1.
Which means my car will be ready around June 20. Long enough to keep pissing me off, but not so long that I can benefit from the tax changes (worth about $1400). 😆
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I know I'm being very pessimistic here, but a rise in the LCT threshold has been announced, to kick in from July 1.
Which means my car will be ready around June 20. Long enough to keep pissing me off, but not so long that I can benefit from the tax changes (worth about $1400). 😆
Why can't you have a discussion with your dealer? Surely it would be worth delaying a few more days to get a $1400 benefit ? I know I would.....
Why can't you have a discussion with your dealer? Surely it would be worth delaying a few more days to get a $1400 benefit ? I know I would.....
Knowing my dealer, even if my car was ready after July 1 they'd still try to force me to pay the previously agreed drive-away price so they could pocket the LCT savings!
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