[jongodfrey]

I saw this on a Facebook Group. I'm at a Kia event tomorrow so will try to confirm.

Could be big news in the UK and EU where there would be no need for an Adapter. I bet it wouldn't be cheap mind you.

 

[Desmo]

When you see them at the event, tell the bloke he's talking shit. Ask him why they are the only team that seem to know about this "big news" and ask him why, if Kia are doing an amazing deal with Telsa, did they decide to put the charge port in the wrong corner? Ask him if he's breaking any NDA's by giving this information and if not, where can we see this information on an official site from Kia.

I wish I could meet this team face to face and ask them stuff
They need to be called out on it.

 

[dc30307]

I would bet that most of the people in this forum are already in that FB group. It was started by the admins of this forum, in an attempt to drive traffic to this site.

 

[StephNL]

EU directive, already implemented in some countries such as France bans closed manufacturer network, so Tesla has the legal obligation to open at least a couple of "pumps" per charging station to any car. Following that, Musk announced a year ago that Tesla was going to open its charging networks to others, starting by EU.

 

[Desmo]

EU directive, already implemented in some countries such as France bans closed manufacturer network, so Tesla has the legal obligation to open at least a couple of "pumps" per charging station to any car. Following that, Musk announced a year ago that Tesla was going to open its charging networks to others, starting by EU.

Yep, we know all that. But this is Tesla and Musk and things don't always happen as expected. It may well happen one day, but who knows when? It's certainly not imminent like some people want it to be.

 

[voxel]

Are Superchargers even capable of high speed 800V charging or are they still 400V?

Shouldn't Kia/Hyundai along with Porsche/Audi.. push for 800V charger installation? I saw in Bjorn's Ioniq 5... all these Ionity 800V chargers. Are there any of those in the US at all? I doubt it.

 

[jongodfrey]

Well, that wasn't the reaction I was expecting.... 🤣

It was probably a under informed and ignorant sales guy picking up on the Musk tweet and putting two and two together to make 22.

 

[yorkieboy]

Well, that wasn't the reaction I was expecting.... 🤣

It was probably a under informed and ignorant sales guy picking up on the Musk tweet and putting two and two together to make 22.

For some reason this topic does seem to receive a lot of opinions. The reality is that we do not know. I did not buy the EV6 on the basis that we would have access, but if it ends up that we do then this is an added bonus. The charge port being on the wrong side is an issue, but I have no idea how long the cable is on a Tesla charger and if it will reach over.

I have often wondered why charge port locations are not standardised, or placed on both sides. As it stands the Kia location suits LHD countries much more, and where I live I would have to park facing the traffic to access many of the chargers with short cables. Not a big issue, but not ideal either.

 

[Desmo]

The charge port being on the wrong side is an issue, but I have no idea how long the cable is on a Tesla charger and if it will reach over.

It won't reach. The only way to use a SuC is to take up two bays and use the cable from "next door".

 

[yorkieboy]

I can imagine how popular that would be 🤣 - I expect Tesla will exclude vehicles that cannot charge in the bay they are parked.

 

[Desmo]

But Pete at Kia says they have a special deal so......

 

[jongodfrey]

The Kia people that I met at one of the dealer launches look puzzled and said they had not heard a thing about this.

 

[Desmo]

Can't think why.

 

[voxel]

With the $7.5B EV charging infrastructure funding in the US... it might happen.

Here's is what I think of Electrify America (former ID.4 owner here who traded it in for a Tesla Model Y) and it is not a pretty assessment. EA after the VW settlement should just be allowed to die.

"At best the charging network in the US works 90 percent of the time. At least one of every ten machines I plug into needs to be reset, delivers an extremely slow charge, or in one case turned our borrowed Porsche into a very expensive and very heavy paper weight for several hours."

https://jalopnik.com/the-middle-of-the-united-states-is-an-ev-charging-waste-1848014807

Even then I think the author is being nice. EA is a non-profit with no incentive to improve service. Broken stall? Guess EA will lose less money today on EV charging.

Seriously... with a Model Y there is no range anxiety because of the number of superchargers and the navigation system that can in real-time tell you how many stalls are available and pre-condition the battery for optimal charging speeds. Planning your trips for hours beforehand with ABRP seems like a giant waste of time. Reminds of me when we used to use paper maps.

 

[MurlinatoR]

I love paper maps! LOL

 

[ColoradoKia]

Especially folded maps in color! I'm with you. LOL. But, Tesla also has a clunky UI, not much ground clearance, bumpy ride, overestimates their range, and few service centers. I do like dog mode and sentry mode, though, and OTA updates seem almost old school now...come on Kia, you should be able to do some of these things too...but, they are just getting going, and everyone is behind and delayed by suppliers, chip shortage, employees etc. This is why we are looking for a way to get in line near the first here in the USA for a Kia EV6, which is a very promising and exciting car indeed. MurlinatoR, we understand that the Thanksgiving to Christmas period is when we may be able to order one, but do you also have any idea how many cars might become available for the USA? Whether particular models may come first or all of them available, and anything else about the impending ordering period in a few weeks? Thanks!

 

[MurlinatoR]

Hey @ColoradoKia, happy Friday!

So, to answer your question simply, no. LOL

I do know that they are ALWAYS wrong with their expected breakdown. They always guess what percentage of sales will be for each model and they always go heavy on low trims and light on high trims thinking that the masses will gravitate to the lower price. It's always wrong. I'm speculating that 65% or more will want the top trim available. That said, it's the US and this is a full EV and it's expensive and no chips and mining lithium for batteries....

I'm super worried that the US will receive less than 2,000 a month for allocation which will mean that it will take a while to get your order in your driveway just like everything else popular at the moment. Telluride sells 8,000 a month, Sorento 6,000, Sportage 7,000, K5 5,000, Forte 7,000, Seltos 5,000... and all of these models are taking months and months to get orders filled for.

Only time will tell, unfortunately. shrugs