[ColoradoKia]

Here is the agreement as it is today:

COP26 declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans

www.gov.uk

Major electric-car automakers that did sign this include BYD, Ford, GM, Jaguar, Mercedes, and Volvo.

Hard to understand why Kia did not sign this, since they have aggressive plans to go electric...

 

[voxel]

Hyundai/Kia should go all electric since they botched Gen 3(?) motors…. in how many vehicles? A million plus?

Deland woman's car suddenly bursts into flames, sets house on fire

Another case of a spontaneous non-crash car fire could reveal a deeper coverup of dangerous defects by Kia and Hyundai.

www.wesh.com

 

[ColoradoKia]

Hyundai/Kia should go all electric since they botched Gen 3(?) motors…. in how many vehicles? A million plus?

Deland woman's car suddenly bursts into flames, sets house on fire

Another case of a spontaneous non-crash car fire could reveal a deeper coverup of dangerous defects by Kia and Hyundai.

www.wesh.com

Wow, did not know about that! Really not good...

Forgot to also add VW to the list of companies that would not sign the COP26 agreement to phase out ICE.

 

[voxel]

Wow, did not know about that! Really not good...

Forgot to also add VW to the list of companies that would not sign the COP26 agreement to phase out ICE.

Kia was once reliable but the last Gen or so of motors have been problematic.

Kia is recalling over 440,000 vehicles because their engines can catch fire --- even when not running

Kia is recalling more than 440,000 cars and SUVs in the U.S. for a second time to fix a problem that can cause engine fires. And the automaker is telling...

www.marketwatch.com

VW is weird. They are trying to go all electric and yet they won’t sign the agreement.

 

[ColoradoKia]

Yes, I agree, hard to explain VW and Tesla...I hope they were not paying attention, and it is just an oversight...

 

[voxel]

Yes, I agree, hard to explain VW and Tesla...I hope they were not paying attention, and it is just an oversight...

Tesla probably wasn't invited. I don't know.... it's not like Tesla makes combustion/gas anything.

VW might still want to keep gas/diesel for semi-trucks and vans? They have businesses around the world.

2020 (Full Year) Global: Volkswagen Group Worldwide Sales by Brand and Market - Car Sales Statistics

In 2020, global sales by the Volkswagen Group were down 15% to 9,305,400 vehicles worldwide. VW, Audi and Skoda were the top-selling brands.

www.best-selling-cars.com

 

[MurlinatoR]

Kia was once reliable but the last Gen or so of motors have been problematic.

Every car company has recalls for fire related concerns. Just google Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford, VW fires and enjoy!

 

[ColoradoKia]

Kia clearly has plans to be free of ICE vehicles and carbon neutral, not sure why they did not sign the COP26 agreement:

Kia sustainability roadmap: Hydrogen fuel-cell lineup in 2028, leather and ICE phased out later

Kia is aiming to have 11 EVs by 2026, with renewable energy at all its factories by 2030, plus initiatives to upcycle plastic waste.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[voxel]

Every car company has recalls for fire related concerns. Just google Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford, VW fires and enjoy!

Except those companies didn’t have to shell out $750 million plus to replace the engines.

HMA Engine Settlement

Kia Engine Settlement - Home

www.kiaenginesettlement.com

At least Hyundai owned up with Kona and are pay $900M to replace Kona EV batteries

Hyundai will replace Kona Electric battery packs, in most expensive EV recall ever

Hyundai Motor America confirmed U.S. versions of the Kona Electric are included in sweeping global recall.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[Desmo]

Why would Tesla sign up to phase out cars they've never made?

 

[MurlinatoR]

Except those companies didn’t have to shell out $750 million plus to replace the engines.

At least Hyundai owned up with Kona and are pay $900M to replace Kona EV batteries

@voxel, really...? Everyone that makes cars deals with expensive recalls and fires. No one is exempt.

Toyota
Honda
Subaru
Honda Fires
Toyota Fires
Tesla Fires

 

[ColoradoKia]

@voxel, really...? Everyone that makes cars deals with expensive recalls and fires. No one is exempt.

Toyota
Honda
Subaru
Honda Fires
Toyota Fires
Tesla Fires

Yes, but rates at which fires occur have varied among these cases...And, soon it may be less of a concern in general, as LFP batteries that Tesla is soon going to use in nearly all of its vehicles, have substantially lower fire risk, in addition to not using cobalt and allowing use of the full 100% battery capacity. Let's hope that Kia and others transition to LFPs or something with similar improvements...