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Pricing will be the issue. Our 2023 SX X Line Telluride was $50k. A mid spec awd for $60k would be reasonable. I don’t think it’s going to be possible given ev6 prices but we’ll see.
Agree pricing will be key, particularly as these likely won't qualify for the 7.5k tax credit that most of the competition will enjoy. Unless Kia gets creative with leasing structures?
 

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it looks nice and im sure it will be great around town, but im really interested to see if an awd model will hit 270 real world miles. if not then it doesn't seem worth it to me, when for a bit more money you can get an R1S, which definitely will. I'm looking for a 3 row family/road trip car that will go at least 250-270 miles on a charge in real world conditions and I'm willing to pay for more batteries to ensure that.
 

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im really interested to see if an awd model will hit 270 real world miles. if not then it doesn't seem worth it to me, when for a bit more money you can get an R1S, which definitely will.
I'd say that depends on charge speed really. Rivian has a 400V architecture and 10-80% times are reportedly between 40-45 min on a 350kWh charger. If EV9 is charges in under 25 minutes from 10-80% I'd give the edge to the EV9. Sure you might be making an extra charging stop on a day of driving, but potentially you would get in and out faster in the 9.
 

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it looks nice and im sure it will be great around town, but im really interested to see if an awd model will hit 270 real world miles. if not then it doesn't seem worth it to me, when for a bit more money you can get an R1S, which definitely will. I'm looking for a 3 row family/road trip car that will go at least 250-270 miles on a charge in real world conditions and I'm willing to pay for more batteries to ensure that.
I'd try to talk a friend out of buying a Rivian at this point. Deliveries and revenue keep pushing out, the stock's lost 90% of its value since IPO, more layoffs are coming. Not sure they're going to make it, and if they don't depreciation and parts support for existing owners will become serious issues. $.02, but I don't have similar concerns around Kia.
 

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I'd try to talk a friend out of buying a Rivian at this point. Deliveries and revenue keep pushing out, the stock's lost 90% of its value since IPO, more layoffs are coming. Not sure they're going to make it, and if they don't depreciation and parts support for existing owners will become serious issues. $.02, but I don't have similar concerns around Kia.
That's my concern with Rivian or any of the other new companies in the last few years that are not Tesla. I have a reservation on a Fisker Ocean that I need to get refunded. In this economic climate I can't trust companies that I don't know will be around in 5 years. That's just too much of a leap of faith.
 

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I'd try to talk a friend out of buying a Rivian at this point. Deliveries and revenue keep pushing out, the stock's lost 90% of its value since IPO, more layoffs are coming. Not sure they're going to make it, and if they don't depreciation and parts support for existing owners will become serious issues. $.02, but I don't have similar concerns around Kia.
This is definitely a concern of mine too.
 

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Question because I forgot when does this come out again (when can we purchase)?

I'm a kia guy, but couldn't wait no longer so bought an Ariya last month but I'm liking this even though the interior and infotainment looks like my Ariya. But love the exterior look, I don't care for white cars so waiting to see the darker colors.
 

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Question because I forgot when does this come out again (when can we purchase)?

I'm a kia guy, but couldn't wait no longer so bought an Ariya last month but I'm liking this even though the interior and infotainment looks like my Ariya. But love the exterior look, I don't care for white cars so waiting to see the darker colors.
End of '23
 

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"We have consciously not used piano black," explained Jochen Paesen, vice president of interior design at Kia. "We're using a middle gray; it's in both matte and gloss. But as you see, the combination between matte and gloss is what makes it feel refined rather than just having a lot of gloss material. So it gives you a modernity, we feel. The black gloss has had its time—we can do without it," Paesen told Ars.
 

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"We have consciously not used piano black," explained Jochen Paesen, vice president of interior design at Kia. "We're using a middle gray; it's in both matte and gloss. But as you see, the combination between matte and gloss is what makes it feel refined rather than just having a lot of gloss material. So it gives you a modernity, we feel. The black gloss has had its time—we can do without it," Paesen told Ars.
I was about to post this quote. The only people
in this world that like piano black trim are the ones that do not own a car with piano black trim. So happy to see kia learn and improve
 
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