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Learning to live with my EV6 GT. Where is walk-away auto-lock?

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EmperorNero

Discussion Starter · 19 d ago

So I made a post about a month ago about how I hated the lack of convenience features on my new EV6 compared to my old Tesla. I am still frustrated with the car, but until my new M3 Comp xDrive comes in, I am trying to learn to live with the car, so maybe I won't feel like I have to get rid of it when my order comes in from Germany.

My one constant pain point is the vehicle not having auto lock. I still cannot get used to getting out of the car and tapping the indent, or hitting the lock button on the FOB. It seems so asinine. The car has approach unlock, why doesn't it have walk-away auto-lock? The car can send me an app alert telling me I forgot to lock the car, so why can't it just lock itself?

I need to solve this issue. The shark racing module doesn't specify if it works with the EV6 GT. There are some posts mentioning the module all over the forum, but no confirmation if it works or not.

Suggestions?

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Ucinn

· #21 · 18 d ago

arnsbrae said:
I agree strongly with your last statement.

I don’t like to be pedantic, but please bear with me!

The current feature that has the car lock the doors when you walk away without opening a door is based on time.

The auto lock feature that would kick in when you walk away even if you have opened a door would be based on proximity.

Those aren’t really the same thing, so they don’t already have the feature on the car.

Except for the car already doesn't allow you to lock the doors with a fob in the car unless you use the other fob, so it also uses proximity... The car already has the pieces and logic to do it.. a simple programming would enable it easily.

Ucinn

· #22 · 18 d ago

NohGa5 said:
First world problem. Clearly this is not the car you want due to lack of one optional convenience feature. The question is, why didn’t you realize this before you bought the car?

I didn't see anywhere that he said he doesn't like the car, just that these are inconveniences and places that Kia could better this car. As I said earlier, no car will be perfect to any consumer, just have to figure out which one has the least amount of flaws you can live with. I love my EV6, one of the best cars I've ever owned.. would be even better if it had the option to enable auto locking doors and didn't have the stupid start button. But, it's not a deal breaker for me.. I saw the faster charging, no glued ipad on the dash, HUD, and one of the few EV's with a sunroof as major +'s that outweighed the few minuses. You can not like that it has a few missing features and still think it's the best car out there.

m-a-r-k

· #23 · 18 d ago

Wow, such privileged first world problems...

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tonester

· #24 · 18 d ago

Nothing wrong in wishing for or wondering why "feature X" is not available on "car A" but when you start adding to it by arguing about how is it that "car B" that costs $30K has it yet "car A" that costs $50K+ doesn't have it, then you're simply whining at that point IMHO, especially if you knew beforehand that "car A" didn't offer said feature.

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jburns

· #25 · 18 d ago

m-a-r-k said:
Wow, such privileged first world problems...

Believe it or not, I once had a car that made me turn a crank to open and close the windows.

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dscoti

· #26 · 18 d ago

jburns said:
Believe it or not, I once had a car that made me turn a crank to open and close the windows.

And use a key to unlock the doors, turn it in a switch to start it, pull up or push down on buttons in the door to unlock/lock the doors. Had a manual transmission. A car you could and wanted to do ALL the work on, had no computers. But, honestly I don’t want to go back to those days.

Ucinn

· #27 · 17 d ago

dscoti said:
And use a key to unlock the doors, turn it in a switch to start it, pull up or push down on buttons in the door to unlock/lock the doors. Had a manual transmission. A car you could and wanted to do ALL the work on, had no computers. But, honestly I don’t want to go back to those days.

Two different keys, one for the doors and ignition and a different one for the trunk..oh, the humanity...lol

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tonester

· #28 · 17 d ago

Anyone remember having to use the cable-actuated slider controls to adjust HVAC temperature? What about the push-button on the floor to turn on/off high beams?

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Bkaklinv

· #29 · 17 d ago

How bout cars without AC....or a radio? Did LOVE the floor button for the high beams tbh.

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Ucinn

· #30 · 17 d ago

Manual choke? lol.. now I am really aging myself.

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TotalHipTouring

· #31 · 17 d ago

tonester said:
What about the push-button on the floor to turn on/off high beams?

How about a foot lever to switch to a one gallon reserve fuel tank instead of a fuel gauge?

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dscoti

· #32 · 17 d ago

My 1973 ¾ ton Chevy 4x4 P/U had saddle tanks. Awesome, except it had a manual switch and if I wasn’t watching…cough, choke, sputter, try to move right just in case I fumbled with the switch too long. Ask me how I know 🤦🏻‍♂️😂🤪😬 I learned quickly to switch tanks with ¼ to ⅛ left in the current tank. The switchover was really smooth once I learned.

AlbertDC

· #33 · 17 d ago

@EmperorNero I would guess that you've seen this thread, right?

www.kiaevforums.com

Potential third-party solution for walk-away auto-door...

Found this in the KiaEV6 Reddit; disclaimer--nothing is said there to indicate that it will definitely work on the EV6 but apparently someone is willing to take the risk. Auto-door lock module Caveat/requirement: From the shark racing site: ONLY CARS THAT HAVE POWER-FOLDING MIRRORS FROM THE...

www.kiaevforums.com

www.kiaevforums.com

Starting with post 11, @kyle11111 describes the module he got and that it has worked well. He has the GT-line. Do you have the actual GT version, or the GT-line version? Even if you have the GT version, it seems like pretty low risk that it would work with the GT-line and not the GT. I just figured I'd help offer a solution, rather than berate you for wanting a feature that surely seems like it could have been easily offered as a user-defined option. Good luck!

tangey

· #34 · 16 d ago (Edited)

EmperorNero said:
Who the hell takes a wireless key out of their pocket to forget it in the vehicle lol?

The key never leaves my pocket.

The system has been designed for the general population and to cope as far as possible with all the various ways people can interact with it.

I often get in the car and throw the bunch of keys on the passenger seat, or take of my coat which has the keys in it, and put it on the seat. Women will likely have their keys in a purse/handbag. So there are going to be tons of situations where people do not have the key on their person. The fact that does not apply to you does not mean it's not a common scenario.

There have been several times when I tried to lock the car with the indent, to find it would not because the key was still in my coat in the car. In that circumstance if I'd been sitting in the car for 30 mins and then got out, autolock might have locked me out. Replace that scenario with a woman with keys in a purse who sits for a bit in the car and then gets out without the purse.

If no one ever left their key in the car, there would be no point in the keyless system checking for the presence of a key before allowing a car to be locked. And once the decision is made to check for the presence of the key, a redesigned key that may be undetectable due to being asleep needs to be taken into account. If the scenarios above only happen to 1 person every 10,000 times, that's still people being locked out of their car by an autolock system. I have no evidence to indicate that keys going to sleep is the reason why the feature was not implemented, but I can see the logic if that was the decision.

The people in this thread saying "I wouldn't want this feature because it wouldn't work for me!" are ridiculous and have a non-argument. The entire point of having a connected vehicle, especially one with as many user-adjustable features as the EV6 has, is so the user could simply turn the feature off if they don't want to use it.

Sometime people have to be protected from themselves. Its why there have been software updates to ensure the parking brake is auto-applied, technically there is no reason as the driver should always do it, however for that rare occasion when the driver forgets, its better it is auto-applied.

Autolock would be a great optional feature. One might say have it off by default and then people have actively decided to turn it on, but no one would ever deliberately enable a feature if they knew that some day it would result in them being locked out of the car. The first time they realise the implications of having decided to turn it on is that 1 in 10,000 time when they do something they did not consider when turning the feature on, and now they are locked out.

Always a good discussion when someone decides others with a contra opinion as ridiculous and having a non-argument. Its like "laughing out loud" at the thought of someone not having the wireless key in their pocket, simply because you always do.

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Distantsoil

· #35 · 16 d ago

Ucinn said:
Manual choke? lol.. now I am really aging myself.

I actually miss having a choke... no idea why. There was something about the cold morning process you had to follow in the morning that was weirdly satisfying... pump the accelerator twice, pull the choke three quarters out, turn over the engine with your foot barely on the accelerator, wait for it to catch, pull the choke the whole way, let it run for a moment then reduce the choke, give it a little rev to see how well it holds....

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Apprunner

· #36 · 16 d ago

tangey said:
The system has been designed for the general population and to cope as far as possible with all the various ways people can interact with it.

I often get in the car and throw the bunch of keys on the passenger seat, or take of my coat which has the keys in it, and put it on the seat. Women will likely have their keys in a purse/handbag. So there are going to be tons of situations where people do not have the key on their person. The fact that does not apply to you does not mean it's not a common scenario.

There have been several times when I tried to lock the car with the indent, to find it would not because the key was still in my coat in the car. In that circumstance if I'd been sitting in the car for 30 mins and then got out, autolock might have locked me out. Replace that scenario with a woman with keys in a purse who sits for a bit in the car and then gets out without the purse.

If no one ever left their key in the car, there would be no point in the keyless system checking for the presence of a key before allowing a car to be locked. And once the decision is made to check for the presence of the key, a redesigned key that may be undetectable due to being asleep needs to be taken into account. If the scenarios above only happen to 1 person every 10,000 times, that's still people being locked out of their car by an autolock system. I have no evidence to indicate that keys going to sleep is the reason why the feature was not implemented, but I can see the logic if that was the decision.

Sometime people have to be protected from themselves. Its why there have been software updates to ensure the parking brake is auto-applied, technically there is no reason as the driver should always do it, however for that rare occasion when the driver forgets, its better it is auto-applied.

Autolock would be a great optional feature. One might say have it off by default and then people have actively decided to turn it on, but no one would ever deliberately enable a feature if they knew that some day it would result in them being locked out of the car. The first time they realise the implications of having decided to turn it on is that 1 in 10,000 time when they do something they did not consider when turning the feature on, and now they are locked out.

Always a good discussion when someone decides others with a contra opinion as ridiculous and having a non-argument. Its like "laughing out loud" at the thought of someone not having the wireless key in their pocket, simply because you always do.

Honestly, the whole dang design is behind the times. Why even have a start button on an EV...soon as someone opens the door, the traction battery should activate. Its also better to have your phone as the key and as long as the phone stays in the car, the door never locks (unless you manually lock it). For such a copy cat industry, makes no sense they leave legacy systems like this in place when there are much better comps out there.

tonester

· #37 · 16 d ago

Forgot to add about having to use a lever/rod to adjust the side mirrors...or (IIRC) back in the old days when the hazard switch was actually located on the steering column...

tonester

· #38 · 16 d ago

Ucinn said:
Manual choke? lol.. now I am really aging myself.

Somewhat-related--how about back in the day when those old-fashioned round air filters were almost as large as a spare donut tire? Ok I'm exaggerating a bit there but for those of you who've driven and maintained carburated vehicles you know what I'm talking about...

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b-real

· #39 · 16 d ago

tonester said:
Forgot to add about having to use a lever/rod to adjust the side mirrors...or (IIRC) back in the old days when the hazard switch was actually located on the steering column...

You had it good. My 93 Wrangler required you to roll down the windows to manually adjust the mirror (forget about adjust the passenger side), and I also had to manually roll down the window. Still have it, but it doesnt have doors anymore as I was done being a sucker to manually adjust those things.

spaceage

· #40 · 16 d ago

I'd really like a feature for it to lock itself when I walk away with the key in my pocket, but all things considered it's fine.

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