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New Tires! Falken Azenis FK460. Very smooth, pretty quiet, not nearly as expensive.

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Got up to almost 25k miles and after the ICCU update, had the dealership show me my tires were between 3/32 and 4/32 so knew it was time to buy tires. After researching all of the EV specific tires with foam inserts and, honestly, watching the Tire Rack video showing foam adds maybe a fraction of noise reduction it opened the window for many more tire selections out there. I have a EV6 Wind with 19" 235/55/19 tires.

Bottom Line: Very quiet, even tone in the low Hz. Impressive for a tire compound and design that does not have foam inside. Did not pull out the dB meter, but on par with the OEM Kumho HP71's. On smooth new roads they are practically inaudible. Very smooth over bumps, it absorbs more like a "grand touring" tire than an all-season ultra high performance tire. Have put about 1k miles on them already and impressed. Have not had any adverse weather to gauge, although, living in CO, I did notice they didn't score so well in snow; however, I'm in the city so 95% of what I drive on is just cold asphalt vs hardpack or deep snow.

Price: $870 including tax from TireRack. Had them shipped to my local DiscountTire (if you didn't know DiscountTire recently bought TireRack and they are merging) and that was $108 for install, so total $978. A pretty good savings vs the Hankook Ion EV's that would have been $1100 just for the tires. (I was very very close to getting the Hankook's).

All of the reviews: Mostly YouTube and a few articles and here are the Falken Azenis FK460's videos. They really did stack up against the other competition:
1. TireRack (They loved them) -
2. Review from a Tesla owner (who also loved them) -
3. Review from The Topher (his channel is amazing for POV car reviews) -
4. Long form review from a BMW owner -
5. The TireRack video on "are noise cancelling foam tires worth it?" -

And of course pouring over personal reviews on TireRack, DiscountTire, SimpleTire, etc.

Very happy with them so far and will update after incliment weather here (heavy rain, snow, taking them skiing).

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Nice! I've had Falken Wildpeak AT on our pickups. Totally different tread, etc., but they handled very well and were very good quality.

I'm a bit envious of all of that cushy sidewall. The 21" on our GT are good when the pavement's nice and smooth, but can be pretty jarring when they encounter anything else. I'm seriously considering 20" aftermarket wheels and appropriate tires. Will probably go with Michelin CC2s since it rains a bunch plus some snow and ice here in the winter. I hadn't considered Falkens though so I'll have to keep them in mind, especially the price.

Enjoy and keep us posted!
 
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Yeah! I know they don’t have a ton of advertising or normally show up on anyone’s radar for car tires (saw Falken is crazy popular on trucks with the Wildpeaks) but these are my second set of Falkens (wife has the Sinceras) and impressed with them. Think they only sponsor drift racing and some 24 hour races and that’s it, so could be passing off the savings of NOT widely advertising. Just solid value so far.
 
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I am on the fence with Falkens. I had two sets on my 2001 LS430. The first set of Falken ZIEX AE912 only got 24k in 1 year. The second set was better, 52k in 2 years. Michelin Primacy MXV4s got me 78k in 2 years, and 50k in 1½ years. Maybe they are better now, maybe I was rough. You may remember I put over 410,000 miles on it. LOL
Factory tires/wheels were 225/70-16. Changed to new wheels with the first Falkens 245/45-18. All that to say, I have been looking at the Hankook Ion EVs too, so it will be good to see what the Falkens do for you.
 
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I am on the fence with Falkens. I had two sets on my 2001 LS430. The first set of Falken ZIEX AE912 only got 24k in 1 year. The second set was better, 52k in 2 years. Michelin Primacy MXV4s got me 78k in 2 years, and 50k in 1½ years. Maybe they are better now, maybe I was rough. You may remember I put over 410,000 miles on it. LOL
Factory tires/wheels were 225/70-16. Changed to new wheels with the first Falkens 245/45-18. All that to say, I have been looking at the Hankook Ion EVs too, so it will be good to see what the Falkens do for you.
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Yeah like almost all tire manufacturers there can be some misses with the hits. I think with the FK460s they nailed the compound and tread make up. But yeah, outside of racing world, early Falkens back in the day didn’t have the best reputation.
 
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Falken only gives it a 3 out of 5 for efficiency, it also has a wear rating of 500, the Hankook Ion Evo AS SUV has a wear rating of 600, so the usual "you get what you pay for" applies. Another issue for my GTL is the Falken isn't made in 235/50R20 which is comparable to the 235/55R19 and 245/45R20 in diameter, going to a narrower tire for better efficiency and a little more sidewall for a bit softer ride is my goal.

 
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Hey all!!

Did capture quite a few drives that were similar in length and did some extrapolation for equivalent distances with the Falkens vs the Kumhos and bottom line:

It depends on what you want your tires to do. Overall, yes, you should pay a small efficiency price for the UHP gooey stickiness of the Falken FK460s vs the "touring" Kumho HP71s. However, time of day, tire pressure, temp of ambient air, temp of road, traffic, wind, all play a huge part in comparing apples to apples. This explains why on the Tyre Review YouTube channel they always test tires same day, same time, same distance, every time. I am just one dude who loves his Kia EV6 and loves taking corners a bit too fast.

It is worth noting, over on ICE vehicles this is almost never ever a discusison point on tire efficiency unless you're in a Prius or other hybrid. But here we scrutinize it to the Nth degree. Unless you are constantly driving long distances in your EV and need every mile of full range, it should not matter as much as long as you have a high quality, well built all season tire. So get a set of tires that makes you happy and will last as long as you can make them.

In short, it is up to you if you prefer spirited drives and max grip (Shout out to all the GT owners in here!) or aiming for huge efficiency and max range.

I do not go on super long road trips in my EV6, in fact, have yet to do one more than about 130 miles, (Springs to Monarch), so for me, needing to squeeze out near 300m range is not a huge deal. The road handling, smoothness over bumps, and quiet nature of the Falkens (and no kidding on the price) are a good experiment and I'm happy with them so far. I really do not have enough data here to make a full efficiency comparison, drive what you like, but realize anything not rated for the efficiency of an EV tire are probably going to take a few miles out of your range (e.g., there is a ton of reviews on the much loved Michelan Cross Climate 2's. I have these on our Volvo XC60 and absolutely love them, but did I ever question their efficiency? Heck no).

Following are some drives I captured and the drivetrain kWh's burned on both tires. An ~80m drive up to Denver from Co. Springs back and forth, and then a short ~14m drive from my house to my kiddos house and you can see it .. depends on temps, distance, elevation, traffic.

For the COS to DEN trip, you can see, if we take the rate of m/Kwh burned on the Falkens and equate it to the same distance (75.8) on the Kumhos, we actually were more efficient on the Falkens. That is shown in the 15.31kWh on the Falkens I extrapolated vs 15.47 kWh on the Kumhos for drivetrain only for the same 75.8 mile distance. This was also the very next day after the tires were put on, brand spankin' new and probably inflated to exact psi.

For the short drives, yeah, taking a .3 to .7 hit on kWh for the usual 15m drive I do from my house to my 2nd oldest's house in town. But am I focusing on efficiency for that long of a drive? Nah. Would I be for the upcoming Springs to Santa Fe drive we have in August? Heck yeah. I will for sure report back on full distance range with the Falkens then.
 

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Pretty good! Still seeing the 5-6% reduction vs the Kumhos but distance driving and hitting EA chargers with room to spare has never been an issue. They are still super supple and love the curves. When on fresh pavement nearly inaudible (we just had most of the summer re-paving in Colorado done around here).