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regenerative braking on the brake pedal?

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Gordi555

Discussion Starter · Sep 12, 2021

First EV coming, my wife and I are used to brake pedal and was just wondering if regenerative braking is enabled on the brake pedal?

All things mention one pedal driving and paddles, but can't see any regenerative braking info on just the 'old way of driving' and using brake pedal. Because by default we're both going to think that way. We will still use a petrol car alongside our EV.

As in how the Audi e Tron Q4 does it, with just brake pedal.

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Riddick

· #2 · Sep 12, 2021

Gordi555 said:
First EV coming, my wife and I are used to brake pedal and was just wondering if regenerative braking is enabled on the brake pedal?

All things mention one pedal driving and paddles, but can't see any regenerative braking info on just the 'old way of driving' and using brake pedal. Because by default we're both going to think that way. We will still use a petrol car alongside our EV.

As in how the Audi e Tron Q4 does it, with just brake pedal.

In a nutshell yes, assuming it behaves like Kia's existing EV models.
When using the brake pedal the car should start with regenerative breaking and add mechanical braking as needed (E.G. if you're breaking hard).
The advantage of using the paddles to brake is that it's all regenerative breaking but you don't get as much braking force.
Not entirely sure how one pedal driving is going to work in the EV6 as it's not available on existing models, it could well use mechanical brakes as well but my guess would be it relies on regenerative braking alone.

That all said there is absolutely nothing wrong with driving it like a normal car using just the pedals, many EVs don't have the paddles or a one pedal driving mode and still benefit from regenerative braking. Kia just give you lots of ways to drive.

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Bill Schaeffer

· #3 · Sep 12, 2021

Regenerative braking system

Gordi555

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 12, 2021

Riddick said:
In a nutshell yes, assuming it behaves like Kia's existing EV models.
When using the brake pedal the car should start with regenerative breaking and add mechanical braking as needed (E.G. if you're breaking hard).
The advantage of using the paddles to brake is that it's all regenerative breaking but you don't get as much braking force.
Not entirely sure how one pedal driving is going to work in the EV6 as it's not available on existing models, it could well use mechanical brakes as well but my guess would be it relies on regenerative braking alone.

That all said there is absolutely nothing wrong with driving it like a normal car using just the pedals, many EVs don't have the paddles or a one pedal driving mode and still benefit from regenerative braking. Kia just give you lots of ways to drive.

Thank you! Very helpful! I was assuming this but you know what they say.

Waynerm002

· #5 · Sep 14, 2021

The one pedal driving setup is something you enable, in the EV6 it is activated by the I-Pedal setting. This sort of driving you would have to learn over time. Once you get the hang of it you can bring the car to a stop without touching the brakes however, I would caution it’s use on the highways/motorways, where you might need to reduce speeds faster, in an emergency, that the regeneration system would.

Robert

· #6 · Sep 14, 2021

Waynerm002 said:
The one pedal driving setup is something you enable, in the EV6 it is activated by the I-Pedal setting. This sort of driving you would have to learn over time. Once you get the hang of it you can bring the car to a stop without touching the brakes however, I would caution it’s use on the highways/motorways, where you might need to reduce speeds faster, in an emergency, that the regeneration system would.

Surely the Forward Collision Avoidance system would automatically put on the brake in an emergency?

Waynerm002

· #7 · Sep 14, 2021

Yes, it would. Provided it is working correctly. Would scare the heck out of you and the avoidance dependis on weather conditions and available traction. Better safe than sorry. I’ve had my fair share of scares in vehicles based on how I drive. I’m typically changing out tires and brake pads and sometimes rotors for better stopping power. Some times, even that can’t make up for the unexpected, if the system fails when you need it most.

Just giving a bit of advice, we are all free to do want we like.

MurlinatoR

· #8 · Sep 14, 2021

Waynerm002 said:
Yes, it would. Provided it is working correctly. Would scare the heck out of you and the avoidance dependis on weather conditions and available traction. Better safe than sorry. I’ve had my fair share of scares in vehicles based on how I drive. I’m typically changing out tires and brake pads and sometimes rotors for better stopping power. Some times, even that can’t make up for the unexpected, if the system fails when you need it most.

Just giving a bit of advice, we are all free to do want we like.

What?!?!?!?! Are you implying that FSD (FullSelfDriving) isn't capable of doing everything for me??? (sarcastically)

Waynerm002

· #9 · Sep 14, 2021

Lol! We are not there yet. I have to turn down the level of interaction on my previous Stinger GT and sometimes off on the Audi as that thing wants to go to that off ramp or split in the road on its own. It’s not a gentle move either, it’s a big tug on the wheel.

twiggydog

· #10 · Oct 30, 2021

Waynerm002 said:
The one pedal driving setup is something you enable, in the EV6 it is activated by the I-Pedal setting. This sort of driving you would have to learn over time. Once you get the hang of it you can bring the car to a stop without touching the brakes however, I would caution it’s use on the highways/motorways, where you might need to reduce speeds faster, in an emergency, that the regeneration system would.

Hi. I am awaiting delivery of my EV6 and am keen to understand as much about the car functions as possible before it arrives. How do you actually activate the I pedal setting?

Anaglypta

· #11 · Oct 30, 2021

twiggydog said:
Hi. I am awaiting delivery of my EV6 and am keen to understand as much about the car functions as possible before it arrives. How do you actually activate the I pedal setting?

It's a function of the left hand flappy paddle - from the manual:-

And for the full online manual home page:-

KIA EV6 Online Manual

Enjoy

John.

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twiggydog

· #12 · Oct 30, 2021

Many thanks John. I love the auto regen function on my Niro and feel sure that this is key to securing good efficiency esp on motorways and A roads. I look forward to trying the i pedal function with what sounds next level smart. It is much more relaxing (and I assume more efficient) to allow the car to coast whenever possible and only apply regen when required. That the car can do this automatically is pretty slick I think.

Fracture

· #13 · Oct 30, 2021

It really doesn’t take long to adapt to one pedal driving.

twiggydog

· #14 · Oct 30, 2021

Fracture said:
It really doesn’t take long to adapt to one pedal driving.

Is there a risk that brake discs etc become corroded thru lack of use I wonder? You really notice when cleaning an EV how clean the wheels are... No brake dust to be seen. I've hear of i3 cars in Europe with over 250,000 miles still on their original brakes. I wonder if the brakes should be used just occasionally to keep the discs in good shape?

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tol3rd

· #15 · 9 mo ago

Waynerm002 said:
The one pedal driving setup is something you enable, in the EV6 it is activated by the I-Pedal setting. This sort of driving you would have to learn over time. Once you get the hang of it you can bring the car to a stop without touching the brakes however, I would caution it’s use on the highways/motorways, where you might need to reduce speeds faster, in an emergency, that the regeneration system would.

Hi. newbie here. waiting for my EV6 on 9/20 and am reading lots! i liked your reply and thought you could give me your opinion on the regenerative breaking. i would think that anywhere except highway driving, you'd want the RB to be at it's max. does that sound appropriate?
thanks

dscoti

· #16 · 9 mo ago

I’d recommend searching the forum for I-pedal, efficient driving. You’ll get lots of suggestions and more reading material. Here’s a start: EV6 - Think I-PEDAL is the most efficient?

Bill Schaeffer

· #17 · 9 mo ago

tol3rd said:
Hi. newbie here. waiting for my EV6 on 9/20 and am reading lots! i liked your reply and thought you could give me your opinion on the regenerative breaking. i would think that anywhere except highway driving, you'd want the RB to be at it's max. does that sound appropriate?
thanks

You can of course play with the different levels of regen as much as you like, but personally, I just keep my EV6 in Auto Regen mode and it works great.

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