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Given how much insurance takes into account how often a car make is involved in an accident, all these wrecks can't be a good thing. I can't help wonder if people are relying too much on the regenerative braking or the lane keep assist.


Please get to know your car before you become another statistic and drive up the cost of insurance, or worse and force the government to force Kia to put in more restrictive safety features that makes the car less enjoyable for the rest of us. I can't believe someone actually wrecked theirs with less than 100 on the odometer...smh.
 

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I'm going to say it's complacency and relying too much probably on the regenerative braking settings.

And we can't blame it on kids,, because kids can't afford these vehicles.
I believe it's the learning curve and they're not paying close attention.
 

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I'm going to say it's complacency and relying too much probably on the regenerative braking settings.

And we can't blame it on kids,, because kids can't afford these vehicles.
I believe it's the learning curve and they're not paying close attention.
Is the assumption that fault lies with the drivers of these EV6s and Ioniq 5s, and not a third party?
 

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Given how much insurance takes into account how often a car make is involved in an accident, all these wrecks can't be a good thing. I can't help wonder if people are relying too much on the regenerative braking or the lane keep assist.


Please get to know your car before you become another statistic and drive up the cost of insurance, or worse and force the government to force Kia to put in more restrictive safety features that makes the car less enjoyable for the rest of us. I can't believe someone actually wrecked theirs with less than 100 on the odometer...smh.
I don鈥檛 think seeing a small handful of damaged cars up for auction is reason to worry. The article is all about damaged EV6 and Ioniq5 examples: a FUD-generating title for sure. In isolation it looks bad, but not in context.


There are over 5,000 EV6s in the US. If fewer than 50 have been involved in collisions, you鈥檙e still looking at sub 1% of EV6s. I don鈥檛 believe this to be statistically significant.

Also, your language suggests that the drivers of these vehicles are responsible for the crashes and that they鈥檙e at fault. The linked cars don鈥檛 contain this information, so where are you getting it from?
 

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actually i鈥檇 wonder how much the throttle release curve has to do with any of these crashes. Has anyone noticed the throttle hang when above level 1 regen?? If it was one of my ice cars I would have replaced the TB or lubed the cables (yeah they are old).
 

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Is the assumption that fault lies with the drivers of these EV6s and Ioniq 5s, and not a third party?
Agreed. A few of the pics look like side impact. If they had no way of controlling the situation, like another driver ran a red, then it's not the EV6 owner's fault. Or even a rear-ending. I don't think we have much to worry about. Cheers!
 

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actually i鈥檇 wonder how much the throttle release curve has to do with any of these crashes. Has anyone noticed the throttle hang when above level 1 regen?? If it was one of my ice cars I would have replaced the TB or lubed the cables (yeah they are old).
I do find it annoying that it does this. I鈥檓 sure a software update could address this if Kia chose to do so.
I would prefer immediate regen at all times. Far more predictable.
 

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For those where the EV6 driver is at fault, I would place the complex ev data/infotainment/climate system up there as a reason for distracted drivers. I can confess to moments where I felt like I was messing with the display too much while driving. 馃槙
 

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Is the assumption that fault lies with the drivers of these EV6s and Ioniq 5s, and not a third party?
Not at all.
I'm viewing it at the point of the vehicles that had frontal collisions.
Some of them look like they were high speed. It could have been an animal or an object for all we know.
But I do know that if they weren't used to the vehicle,, it could be part of the issue.
 

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I don鈥檛 think seeing a small handful of damaged cars up for auction is reason to worry. The article is all about damaged EV6 and Ioniq5 examples: a FUD-generating title for sure. In isolation it looks bad, but not in context.


There are over 5,000 EV6s in the US. If fewer than 50 have been involved in collisions, you鈥檙e still looking at sub 1% of EV6s. I don鈥檛 believe this to be statistically significant.

Also, your language suggests that the drivers of these vehicles are responsible for the crashes and that they鈥檙e at fault. The linked cars don鈥檛 contain this information, so where are you getting it from?

One percent on a vehicle that hasn't been out for at least a year seems kind of high. On any given year it's one thing, but on a new vehicle where these cars are new to the public seems even worse. Given that all these vehicles are new cars in their owners' hands makes it a little more egregious. The reason being is that most people getting a new car tend to drive more defensively than someone that's had their vehicle for a few years. If these cars had been out for a few years and some drivers are just having accidents because they've gotten too comfortable with their drive, that's one thing. I suspect drivers are either trying to figure out the cool tech/screen inside and are not paying attention to their driving, or as I stated earlier are just not used to the regenerative braking. Hell, I find myself using the brakes alongside my regen braking often on my Leaf because it doesn't seem to brake when I approach a light and the light changes at the last minute. Also if the EV6 has "One-pedal-driving", that's another technology that needs to be practiced. I figure if anything, this should be a warning to anyone that's looking to get into one, don't make the mistakes that others are apparently making. Most importantly, drive safe.


For those where the EV6 driver is at fault, I would place the complex ev data/infotainment/climate system up there as a reason for distracted drivers. I can confess to moments where I felt like I was messing with the display too much while driving. 馃槙
I saw how you have to toggle to switch between the A/C and the radio controls, and can see how that might be distracting. I wonder how Kia would address this function if it was deemed too involved, maybe voice recognition to adjust either?
 

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One percent on a vehicle that hasn't been out for at least a year seems kind of high. On any given year it's one thing, but on a new vehicle where these cars are new to the public seems even worse. Given that all these vehicles are new cars in their owners' hands makes it a little more egregious. The reason being is that most people getting a new car tend to drive more defensively than someone that's had their vehicle for a few years. If these cars had been out for a few years and some drivers are just having accidents because they've gotten too comfortable with their drive, that's one thing. I suspect drivers are either trying to figure out the cool tech/screen inside and are not paying attention to their driving, or as I stated earlier are just not used to the regenerative braking. Hell, I find myself using the brakes alongside my regen braking often on my Leaf because it doesn't seem to brake when I approach a light and the light changes at the last minute. Also if the EV6 has "One-pedal-driving", that's another technology that needs to be practiced. I figure if anything, this should be a warning to anyone that's looking to get into one, don't make the mistakes that others are apparently making. Most importantly, drive safe.
I hear what you're saying, but fundamentally disagree with a couple of points:

I used the 50 cars (1%) as a clean example. The reality is that the article you linked in the OP shows two EV6s that have been involved in an accident. A quick search on copart shows just one EV6 listed (side damage). The reality is that it's more like 10-25 cars that have been involved in accidents, representing between 0.2% and 0.5% of EV6s sold in the USA.

Statistics actually show that drivers of new cars, or cars that are new to them are actually 21% more likely to get into an accident than those driving an older car. Additionally, drivers of a car that's new to them have a 27% higher claim frequency than those that have owned their car for 12 months or more. This is all due to unfamiliarity with the vehicle.

I do agree that some of the accidents may be down to people getting used to the quirks of regen, or the new tech in the car. This former however is not exclusive to Kia and the latter goes for the vast majority of new vehicles, ICE and EV. Therefore, this would not adversely affect insurance costs for EV6 / Ioniq 5 drivers based on accident rates but would be a broader trend in the automotive insurance space.
 
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