[MurlinatoR]

Hey Everyone! Happy Friday!

Hot off the presses are confirmed trim levels for the US EV6! Here are the FIVE trim levels that are going to be offered for the 2022 model. What you'll notice is that the GT is missing because it will be a 2023. I have noted what I'm GUESSING the pricing will come in at for each trim level. In case you're color blind, the massive word GUESSING is bright red... (hey...., it's not confirmed yet)

*EX
---RWD $39,500
*EX+
---RWD $44,000 (available Tech Package)
---AWD $46,000 (available Wheel OR Tech Package)
*GT-Line
---RWD $52,500
---AWD $55,000 (First Edition Package)

UPDATED: 11/9/21

 

[MurlinatoR]

Clearly the EX+ and GT-Line will be the LR battery. I'm personally shocked that they're offering the RWD option in anything other than the base EX trim level.

 

[Cataract2]

Clearly the EX+ and GT-Line will be the LR battery. I'm personally shocked that they're offering the RWD option in anything other than the base EX trim level.

Well, I'm aiming for the GT-Line AWD. Was the bells and whistles and am prepping for it. Just going to have to find a dealer who sticks with MSRP.

 

[Waynerm002]

Hmmm..., are you saying KIA will not offer a LX version of the EV6 and the GT Line will be a higher trim than the EX? That's not normal for trim designations for KIA. The EX is normally higher than the GT Line trim and above the EX is usually SX. We could get an SX version, that would be normal, before the GT comes out or not. At this point we really don't know for sure.

 

[MurlinatoR]

Well, I'm aiming for the GT-Line AWD. Was the bells and whistles and am prepping for it. Just going to have to find a dealer who sticks with MSRP.

@Cataract2 I will always order one for you at MSRP.

Hmmm..., are you saying KIA will not offer a LX version of the EV6 and the GT Line will be a higher trim than the EX? That's not normal for trim designations for KIA. The EX is normally higher than the GT Line trim and above the EX is usually SX. We could get an SX version, that would be normal, before the GT comes out or not. At this point we really don't know for sure.

@Waynerm002 Yes Sir, that's exactly what I'm saying. I didn't expect an LX. The price of the EV6 will be too high to offer a stripped out model so that's why they're starting with EX. It's the same way with the Niro EV. I believe that they decided to put the GT-Line over the EX because of the branding for the GT high HP model for next year. There won't be an SX for sure.

A loaded out 2022 will be a GT-Line AWD with probably a Premium or Technology package to top it out around $59K for the 2022 year.

 

[Waynerm002]

LOL, the Europeans have a "stripper" version of the luxury cars, it's the typical US car marketing way, base mid and high level. They always show the highest trim to the press here. Being a new EV lineup, the naming convention could be changed, we will have to wait and see.

 

[Mosko006]

Hey Everyone! Happy Friday!

Hot off the presses are confirmed trim levels for the US EV6! Here are the FIVE trim levels that are going to be offered for the 2022 model. What you'll notice is that the GT is missing because it will be a 2023. I have noted what I'm GUESSING the pricing will come in at for each trim level. In case you're color blind, the massive word GUESSING bright red... (hey...., it's not confirmed yet)

*EX
---RWD $41,000
*EX+
---RWD $47,000
---AWD $49,500
*GT-Line
---RWD $54,000
---AWD $56,500

I think you're right with the trim designations; prices seem accurate but I hope it is a few grand cheaper

 

[Mosko006]

@Cataract2 I will always order one for you at MSRP.


A loaded-out 2022 will be a GT-Line AWD with probably a Premium or Technology package to top it out around $59K for the 2022 year.

Please sell it for less.

 

[Mosko006]

If the GT Line is too expensive, I may have to body-color wrap the ridged black fender cladding.

 

[Cataract2]

@Cataract2 I will always order one for you at MSRP.

A loaded out 2022 will be a GT-Line AWD with probably a Premium or Technology package to top it out around $59K for the 2022 year.

I was estimating that the FE @ $58k would be that top of the GT-Line package price, or at least a good guesstimate to start. So, $59k would be within the error I figure (knowing what you are giving us is the same guesstimate).

That said, you're located in IA, correct? To pay MSRP during these times, it might be worth a fly and drive from NH.

 

[Cataract2]

Please sell it for less.

If things weren't crazy, yeah, I could see less than MSRP. As it is, fair is MSRP IMO.

 

[MurlinatoR]

I was estimating that the FE @ $58k would be that top of the GT-Line package price, or at least a good guesstimate to start...

Well, the FE will be $60k MSRP. It's listed at $58,500 BEFORE destination of probably $1,225 and then you have to add floor mats! Hahaha

I'm expecting the sticker to say $59,935.

 

[Cataract2]

Well, the FE will be $60k MSRP. It's listed at $58,500 BEFORE destination of probably $1,225 and then you have to add floor mats! Hahaha

I'm expecting the sticker to say $59,935.

Fair enough. Just checking, if you are serious on what you say. You location is IA, correct? We would consider heading your way for a fair transaction.

 

[dc30307]

Since info is apparently trickling in, any guesses as to when concrete info will be available, as in what options are included/available? I'm interested to see what it will take to get the equivalent of the GT Line S in Europe.

 

[Mosko006]

If things weren't crazy, yeah, I could see less than MSRP. As it is, fair is MSRP IMO.

My feeling is that if this product ends up being that expensive as you have mentioned earlier, people might just head over to Tesla.

 

[dc30307]

My feeling is that if this product ends up being that expensive as you have mentioned earlier, people might just head over to Tesla.

It's looking like the Kia is also coming in around the same price as the Audi Q4, which is another car I've been considering. That's why I'm so interested in the list of features. Audi's inability to source components for things like the 360 camera, Homelink, and other features originally on the spec sheet are what drove me to look elsewhere. In normal times, people would be reluctant to pay the same price for a Kia as they would a comparable Tesla or Audi, but these aren't normal times. IF Kia can produce the product people want when other brands can't, they might get a foothold in the premium market.

 

[Cataract2]

My feeling is that if this product ends up being that expensive as you have mentioned earlier, people might just head over to Tesla.

Always a possibility. Comes down to how people value what's offered. I have a test drive of a Model Y today, but I feel it will remain in the #3 slot of which vehicle will replace my Bolt. I test drove the Model 3 in the past and went away from it feeling it was just, ok. Same for the Mach E. Besides the fact that I just am not that much into the whole Tesla ecosphere where they try to be like Apple. Again, really comes down to the person.

It's looking like the Kia is also coming in around the same price as the Audi Q4, which is another car I've been considering. That's why I'm so interested in the list of features. Audi's inability to source components for things like the 360 camera, Homelink, and other features originally on the spec sheet are what drove me to look elsewhere. In normal times, people would be reluctant to pay the same price for a Kia as they would a comparable Tesla or Audi, but these aren't normal times. IF Kia can produce the product people want when other brands can't, they might get a foothold in the premium market.

I still think people that are looking for the "premium" lines will still gravitate towards them initially. Kia is just not viewed that way. That said, I think you are right, if Kia can produce and have the offering available at a premium, but not premium price (up there, but maybe a few Gs less) then those who can't get all that they want at the "premium" brand dealers will take a look. This might be Kia (and Hyundai's) moment to change their stars. I mean, I never would have thought I would look at a Kia or Hyundai, but here I am.

 

[Waynerm002]

That Q4 e-tron, from the videos I’ve been seeing, will be bested by the EV6 in performance and about similar in range. The KIA should feel on par with build quality and materials on the top spec trim. The Q4 is just a nicely dressed ID.4 with similar performance, about 8 seconds to 60. The “fat e-tron” as Bjorn calls it, will do it in 5.5 seconds and from what we have seen with testing, the EV6 is rated at 5.2, if I remember correctly but tests at 4.6. I’ll take the KIA EV6 over the Audi Q4. Remember, this is not going to be their top EV, it’s their first on the E-GMP platform and will be somewhere about the middle of the pack. There is still a 7 seater to come, as well as a performance sedan. I’m sure KIA will be putting better effort into those. Remember, they use the same parts bin as Hyundai and Genesis. We know what the Koreans have done with Genesis, KIA doesn’t have a luxury brand but can make something in their line up just as luxurious. This K9 or K900 in US market is their top level luxury sedan. You can bet there will be a big luxury sedan as well.

People are expecting EVs to costs more than ICE vehicles at this point but also expect tax and dealer incentives, plus discounts to make them more palatable. Having a cabin that is as nice or nicer than the Stinger, with performance that’s similar, with reduced servicing cost, reduced “fueling” cost and a lower total ownership cost, this will make it an attractive vehicle overall. When taken as a whole, the upfront cost to get in may seem higher however, once you factor in the reduced cost for charging versus gas an service charge over time, owning an EV comes out costing less. The Koreans are beating the Japanese to market with EVs, while maintaining a long warranty, I think this will give them an edge now. We will have to wait and see how the Japanese respond. For now, the Koreans have made some compelling products.

 

[dc30307]

The Q4 is just a nicely dressed ID.4 with similar performance, about 8 seconds to 60. ...the EV6 is rated at 5.2

You're comparing the RWD Q4 to the AWD EV6. The EV6 is quicker than the Q4, but when comparing apples to apples, they are closer than that.

KIA doesn’t have a luxury brand

I would consider Hyundai Kia Automotive Group's luxury brand to be Genesis.

 

[voxel]

Clearly the EX+ and GT-Line will be the LR battery. I'm personally shocked that they're offering the RWD option in anything other than the base EX trim level.

Same.

The Mach-E has a special "California Route 1" config that was a stripped down Premium with RWD-only so it could get a 300+ mile EPA badge.

While RWD is very practical in warm climates and will increase range by 10% over AWD... I highly doubt it will sell well in the higher trims. The only case would be some US state EV incentive price cap (say under $55K) so folks would pick the RWD or...Kia is using a larger single motor for RWD only configs. Mach-E has different motors sizes for their configs. Just makes everything more complicated.

My brain says EX+ AWD is the best value config but my heart wants the GT-Line AWD or FE. The prices are still lower than the M3P or MYLR after tax credit and also lower than the Mach-E AWD ($57K MSRP).