What other newly offered EV's have you driven?

I have driven the Tesla Model S a couple of year back, more recently the Model Y, Audi e-tron and VW ID.4, didn't care for the Mustang Mach E, never looked into driving it. The ID.4 had pretty good room and was a decent driving EV but just didn't have the power I wanted. The Model Y was properly quick but the ride was harsh and the road noise was horrendous, plus the build quality was bad. Mismatched panels, paint on bumper was different than on the body, interior trim misaligned. The sad thing was all the cars at this store was the same, even the ones that just came of the truck. I was really ready to get one but the issues were too many to overlook. The e-tron had everything else beat. The build quality, inside and out is fantastic, ride comfort and noise level is excellent, the power is pretty good and the boost mode gives a nice kick. The B&O sound system is pretty good bot I fell the Stinger had a better system. Liked it so much I bought one.

Why am I looking again in such a short time? The e tron had a couple issues that had it in the shop and one visit lasted almost a month. Last time I got an Audi was back in 2000 and that car died after I got it home. Didn't bother with another for 20 years and it seems like the same thing all over again, although this time, it was 1 month and not 1 day to break. I've had 3 KIA Optima (still have on in the family) and a Stinger and they have not had major issues. Since July, I have not had any issues with it but my confidence is shaken with Audi and long term reliability. With the Genesis GV60 out now, that one now has my attention.

Owner of an ID.4 (RWD) and test rode a Mach-E Premium recently. The Mach-E is most definitely more aggressive - in acceleration and braking. I quite liked it (especially with the giant sunroof and overall visibility) and put a deposit on a 2022. My ID.4 is basically a couch on wheels and is a perfect family EV SUV (not for me). I'd fully recommend it for folks coming from RAV4s and want something bland that is white/grey/black. It doesn't have Tesla acceleration but the power is linear and smooth from bottom to top. Have not test rode a Tesla in years (tried a friend's Model 3 not long after it was available but only in a parking lot).

My ID.4 has some electrical glitches also in the first month (seems like VW and Audi have EV issues) so I don't fully trust it. Mach-E supposedly has some gremlins too - mostly related to the 12V system and Pass As A Key. I'm looking for something sportier so EV6 and Mach-E are high on my list. The Model Y I have on order - I will only accept if magically Tesla is eligible for the $7500 tax credit in 2022 - then I will sell it for an EV6 when that is available

So much has changed in two months. I traded the glitchy VW ID.4 for a Model Y that I then traded for a Mach-E.

VW needs to fix their electrical reliability issues with the ID.4. Too many horror stories with the battery coolant pump and related glitches. I was basically forced to find another EV and stumbled upon a white Model Y. Hoping the EV6 is more reliable.

The Model Y had infamous panel gaps but the car was flawless otherwise. Everything just worked. Tesla is the Toyota of EV drivetrains. The only glitch I encountered was outdated maps. I could list two dozen issues with the other two cars. Supercharging was no fuss compared the headache of Electrify America (once the VW settlement is exhausted they should deservingly go bankrupt) and 1-pedal acceleration/braking is perfectly refined unlike the ID.4 and Mach-E. I would not recommend any other EV for long road trips….but since I rarely road trip I didn’t “need” the Model Y and the supercharger network.

The Mach-E is my favorite. It handles like a sports sedan/wagon and less like an SUV. I tolerate the bugs as they aren’t major (yet). Like any sporty car, the seats and suspension are firm. Driving feels planted like the Model 3 and doesn’t have the body roll nor understeer/oversteer of the ID.4.

Have now viewed and/or driven:
Tesla Model 3 - having test driven Model X some time ago (uncomfortable, expensive, inconvenient rear doors etc), one look at the M3 in the showroom meant I didn't go back.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 - a look at the outside and then 30 seconds on the interior was enough for me, didn't bother with a test drive
Polestar 2 - had a test drive and was fully underwhelmed. Would only be buying one of these if I was prepared for a divorce (my partner hated it)
Mustang Mach E - liked a lot of things about it, but have decided against it because of the huge tablet looking like it was stuck to the dash with super glue, and ultimately couldn't live with the suspension's lack of body control.
Audi Q4 E-tron - Could have liked this, but the demonstrator we test drove was so under-specced compared to what I would be considering that I couldn't really judge performance, comfort or tech. May have to try it again if I can find one with a higher spec.
EV6 - test drove (twice) and still top of the list. There's a lot to like (wife loves it) but there seems to be a few issues cropping up here and there (inconsistent pre-conditioning, poor reactive headlights, lack of OTA updates, inability to schedule enough departures etc) that mean I have not quite reached for the cheque book (yet).

YMMV of course

In the last month I have test driven a Tesla Model 3, ( poor quality finish, didn't enjoy the interior design, expensive for what it is); Ford Mach-E Felt heavy and over-size, ride beyond firm - I'd call it hard, not keen on body styling); Polestar 2 ,, This WAS my front runner until I saw it in the flesh! Quite a bit smaller than it looks in the photographs - my wife was jealous - The demonstrator vehicle was at least 13 months old and had 29,000 miles on the clock and looked like it. It was cramped in the driving seat as the central tunnel is huge and unnecessary in an EV. Same with the rear seats. The GPS gave up the ghost half way through the test drive which was a bit different. The person in the Polestar space was disinterested in my questions as were Polestar CS in hearing about my experience. The lack of support was a concern as I live in a remote area.) I was just thinking that I was going to have to bight the bullet and just get another I-Pace, which has been a faultless car in the 24,000 miles I have driven it, but had increased by £18,000 since I bought mine! When I saw a Tesla Bjorn video on You Tube featuring the EV6. The same day I organised a Test Drive with the local KIA dealer which materialised 2 weeks later, and that was that. I will order a GTSL AWD with Heat Pump in January (I don't want to get rid of the I-Pace quite yet as I spent quite a lot of money renewing the warranty and some of the services on the the car (none of which are refundable). So, will order in January and the dealer recons it could be available in May or June 2022, which is perfect for me. EV6 Forever!

Placed order for Polestar 2 after researching the Polestar forum and taking a couple of test drives...My wife will be returning her Infiniti Q60 coupe soon and Polestar has vehicles readily available. As we configured one they said it would be available in 2 to 3 weeks and they reduce the leased msrp by $7500 to account for the tax credit which is not available on leased vehicles...Still have my reservation for a FE ev6, but unless they clear up many of the issues (lack of heat in MN would not be too good!), and clarify the ADM's in the US, it may pay to just get it if it ever comes and then sell it t0 the highest bidder , My neighbor has a Mustang Mach e which he really likes but they are upcharging up to
$10k locally and up to a year out on deliveries. My brother has Tesla model 3 which he is selling and has order in for model 7 but delivery just got moved from December to April-May.

I feel the EV6 is worth the money after test driving a lot of EVs in the past months.. Let me sxplane and its all about finding a nice balance of things, of course everyone is entitled to their own option.

I compared Audi Q4 Etron against what I order in EV6 GT Line in white with heat pump, it certainly feels like a £43000 car and with 4.9% interest the monthly payments are that of my Audi A4 Avant from 2019 + petrol per month, Audi Q4 Etron is much more expensive with the larger battery and Edition 1 trim to match Kia EV6 Styling, well over £49k which seems a little high for the price with Audi, not as nice finish as my A4 for sure.

I also matched the EV6 to most other EVs, VW iD range (forget about it) UI is slow, car is slow, car looks ok, inside is like a toy store compared to Kia and Audi..BMW.. shocked to see the nice spec BMW EV was over £70k for a nice trim and battery spec, something close to EV6 or Q4 Etron.

Have you say and test drive VW, Ford, Tesla or Audi EVs? if not you should, you'll think twice once you see them and drive them. I didn't feel like that with the Kia EV6 weirdly.

I mean the comparison just keeps going I looked everywhere to match style, battery, range, looks, price, even Tesla and they're over priced toothpaste tubes which are empty inside almost. Not one of the brands is perfect or even close to perfect for the price we end up paying, which for a car is VERY expensive. Yes EVs are expensive and people are really crazing more for their money with them, Kia EV6 is defo up there with the best for now, forums and Youtube videos confirm what I found out as well. Though people seem to like other brands as well, they have their own thought on value for money etc etc.

I am sure something else will come along of course. But I will only have the EV6 for 3 years then I can swap it out. I am sure the comparison will then start again trust me nothing is perfect, not Audi, not BMW, Tesla came close, but build quality is horrific and the looks... well, each to their own, its not for me. But at the end of the day, The EV6 GT Line is the perfect blend, right in the middle price wise, under £50k (S version kit just ain't worth it in my eyes after having most of it before). GT Line great blend of styling, price, range and battery size for the price £43k. I paid £35k for an Audi A4 in 2017..... that was a rip off, financed however, so glad I didn't pay for it with my money. Car depreciation is almost wicked. Never pay for a car with cash of course you'll lose.

Reid Hester Ph.D. said:

Thanks for the reply. You really have bought a lot of cars in the last few months.

I did like the "road feel" of the Mach e when we took a test drive on some twisty back roads here. I also like what I've read and seen on youtube about the EV6. We'll see..

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Since you ordered in Jan you might be waiting for a while. My two Mach-E orders are from Oct 1st (4 months ago) and I don’t have a build date. Next two months are booked for production and when I do get a production date it’s four weeks for building and four weeks for shipping to dealer. So the minimum wait for me is four more months. You might be waiting until Sept or Oct.

The positive? I can buy the custom built Mach-E at MSRP without the crazy $15K markups that Kia dealers are asking for the EV6 right now.

Just to warn you… the MME suspension is like the Model Y. Some hate that.

The Ioniq 5 drives more like a luxury sedan (I test drove three). If you want comfortable ride and can tolerate a wide car with a wide turning radius (not much different than a Y to be honest) then that is alternative. They are available now and the markups seem less crazy than the Kia.