Is the V2L 120V or 220V? 12kW is impressive!

 

If this is indeed true for US and it supports 220v @ 12kw then that would be worth an upgrade for me. V2L has saved my bacon (literally lol) over the last few days thanks to the nature's generator.

Being able to power 220 would be a killer feature.

 

Kia also put the NACS port on the driver's side (non-GT models) to be more convenient at Tesla Superchargers.

US-built 2025 Kia EV6 debuts with more battery, NACS port, and a fake gear shift

Kia's mid-cycle refresh sees more features added to the EV6, and a commitment to North America with NACS port and local US manufacturing.

electrek.co

https://www.kia.com/us/en/ev6-2025

 

Boo. All street charging and my garage charging is on the passenger side.

 

The EV6 GT model will also get one of the headline features we’ve seen in the popular Ioniq 5 N – a new “Virtual Gear Shift” feature which “enhances driving immersion by simulating gear shifts with visuals, engine sound effects, and a tactile sensation through motor torque adjustment.”

Am I the only one who thinks this is absolutely bonkers? Or sad? Or both?

 

To fully comprehend the pleasure of driving a vehicle with virtual shift, firsthand experience is essential. It is not simply the auditory experience from the speakers; it is the physical sensation of the chassis vibrating and the spine tingling with each virtual shift.
Additionally, the vehicle may stall or cease accelerating if it reaches the redline.
If you have never owned a powerful car with a manual stick shift, you may never understand the joy of manually changing gears.
I have my personal garage with two powerful cars and manual shift transmission and I find the Ioniq 5 N virtual shift to be something that was missing in all electric vehicles before.
It creates a sense of connection and the feeling of driving something that responds to your senses.
And braking loose all four wheels with slight tap on the accelerator, even when going 50 MPH is something that comes with 650 HP electric vehicle that makes instant torque.
And you are probably a person who didn't have this type of technology to drive for couple days to understand what it is.

 

I'm more excited about the electric seats in the GT lol. But hey the more software options the better, if I don't want to use it I won't

 

V2H is normally DC output, with the home panel doing the inversion.

As for the sound, the exhaust on ICE cars is tuned to sound good. This isn't much different.

 

Yeah with 12kW of power and 220v, you could probably run your entire house, plus probably 1 220V appliance at any one time (AC, hot water, stove, dryer, maybe heat). Generally those all pull up to 5,000 watts each, except for electric heat (HVAC) which can go up to 10,000 watts. This all matches up with what I see on my home energy meter, although I have gas heat and water heater.

 

Wow. Very nice. Too many mods to even consider upgrading. In a few years, sure. Cooled seats would be nice for sure.

Luckily, it takes a really bad storm in my area for power to be out more than a couple hours. My geothermal only uses 2.5kW for a 32°F day so that 'could' be possible, not sure what the power is if the 2nd stage kicks in. I know that the 'toaster' backup element is way more but only kicks in if it's -15°F for extended periods (but that's when the ice storm will kill the power!). Propane gas fireplace would come to rescue.

 

The one in the picture would do just fine!
Now if I could just get one 'on the cheap!'

 

I am trying to understand this new V2L thing with Quasar 2. Can someone help me? I am not technically inclined when it comes to these things.

My current setup with my EV6 is I have a generator inlet (garage) that connects directly to my electrical panel (basement is beneath garage). I then use an interlock to switch from main power to EV6. It is a cool setup in a pinch. Obviously, limited to amount of power than can be used.

My home is an attached condo (five units) and the electrical meter is on the other side of the building. Cannot make outside modifications.

With my current home setup, am I able to get the Quasar 2 (replace existing charging setup, 2025 EV6) without a direct interface with the electrical meter? This is the part that is messing me up.

 

Well maybe Kia should put buttkicker transducers built into the seats to get more of that NVH that we are now sorely missing... <Sarcasm>
I get it, I race the GT. I'm flying at 120+mph on the straightaways and the only noise I hear with the window open is the obnoxious GT500 a hundred yards ahead at WOT. When I take a corner, all I hear are the tires trying to grip (which is actually helpful since you can gauge grip better without it being drowned out as you're trying to put down the power with an ICE car). But, in general, it's a total disconnect with the track that would ordinarily help you with shift points.

Oh wait, what's that? You don't need to shift in an EV, so why the software sound fakery? Do I miss the gurgle of the exhaust, the feel of hitting redline and then the satisfaction of upshifting at the optimal time, or down shifting and getting that sweet engine braking feel and having that torque at the ready... Sure, because it's what we are USED to. But it's completely unnecessary now. Full, consistent, linear torque is available from 1 MPH to 120+ MPH. Being completely quiet makes tracking an EV like a video game sim where you can focus on your lines without distraction to the limitations found in your ICE cars. The current limitations that we do have to focus on is our weight and how it throws off EVERYTHING at the track. If Kia can focus more on shedding weight and less on fake sounds, that would be great.

The sound and rev limiter nonsense in the upcoming cars is akin to how I sometimes play my 80s MAME games with reduced resolution and virtual scan lines turned on so that I can mimic the CRT arcade look and feel of yesteryear that I grew up with. It has no practical use and goes against common sense (why would you not want crystal clear 4k resolution?). Maybe we should put a hand crank on the front of the EV to mimic "starting" it and wearing three pieces wool suits while driving it with a top hat, of course.

Its time to move on.

 

The sound and rev limiter nonsense in the upcoming cars is akin to how I sometimes play my 80s MAME games with reduced resolution and virtual scan lines turned on so that I can mimic the CRT arcade look and feel of yesteryear that I grew up with. It has no practical use and goes against common sense (why would you not want crystal clear 4k resolution?).

Its time to move on.

Yes I'm not helping with my post in keeping this thread on-topic, but as an arcade enthusiast I have to respectfully disagree with your arcade game comment--as an owner of a couple of actual 80's arcade game cabs (Tempest and Stargate) I would much rather prefer playing those real versions than playing emulated versions of them (yes I have MAME and plenty of ROMs to play them in MAME including the ones for Tempest and Stargate) on a 4K display any day. I do agree that it's a bit silly to play an old school arcade game in MAME with emulated scan lines but clearly you're not a true arcade enthusiast if you're arguing that nothing beats playing a (classic) arcade game in 4K.

 

I think I'll go against the grain here. Some days I do really miss the sound of my V8, but other times I love the quiet of my EV6, I would gladly trade in these spaceship noises for the sound of a V8. The fake shifts I can do without, but the sound would be nice to turn on once in a while when you want it.

 

I would like my EV6 to be equipped with the Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust that I could turn on when some kid stopped next to me starts revving his engine.

 

I almost always had the radio on in my ICE cars. With the EV6 I find that most of the time I have it off. Quiet is a feature.

 

"Get off my lawn!" Haha. Sometimes it's just too quiet and I have to roll down the windows to connect back with reality.

 

I can see both sides, but having fake shifts is like making vegetarian food look like hamburgers or even turkey

 

Or worse, make a hamburger look like a zucchini

 

I admit that playing at 320x200 resolution with stretched out corners and scan lines looks ridiculous and makes my older eyes strain, but it's the way I remember a lot of the games of the past. I even still put in quarters into all my cabinets even though all of them have a button that closes the coin circuit. Even my MAME cabinet has a coin door. Something about getting as close to the original feel is important to relive nostalgia. So maybe that's why people want the artificial sounds and a digital screen showing a simulated rev limiter being banged against. Who knows.

 

Manual shifting an automatic was added to poorly mimic the experience of shifting a manual transmission and using a clutch. Now fake shifting in an EV is added to mimic manual automatic shifting that mimics shifting a manual transmission with a clutch. Do what you want with an EV drivetrain, it won't ever be anything like driving my M6 Hemi Challenger.

 

Thankfully the days of straight-line performance, ugly American muscle are over. It will be remembered as an ugly period of time in our history when the only concern was putting the largest engine into a body, driving dynamics and handling, be damned. 😂

 

Speaking of straight-line performance and American muscle--this video is proof evidence that sometimes having a high-performance car won't win you any races if you don't know how to properly handle it:

BMW M4 CSL vs. (possibly) Dodge Charger

 

You mean like when I did a 360 rotation in the middle of the track going 120 mph last year at my first track day in this car with crappy summer tires? Haha. Rear ends coming out at high speeds is not new. That BMW, like you said, may just not have experience or was running on crappy tires. Now YT vids of all the Mustang bros leaving car shows wiping out oncoming traffic.

 

The VROOM noises and manual shifting is the stupidest F*#%ing most childish thing anybody ever put into a car. If this is something you need, why don't you just get out a clothespin and clip an old playing card to the spokes like I did when I was SEVEN!! Why can't you just go "ERRRRRR ERRRRRRRRRR ERRRRRRRRRRRRR" to yourself?!!! Could it be because your wife/girlfriend would leave you?

Let's see - how can we make this great car slower? Oh - I know let's limit the acceleration until somebody flips a lever 6 times!! Brilliant!!

My feeling is that they should have done more to improve the everyday driving range of the GT version without slowing it down. THOSE would have been valuable upgrades. I have a GT-Line because the GT had such crappy range and poor efficiency relatively speaking for that 95% of the time you aren't in the act of humiliating a petrol-head. And, I can still out-accelerate my share.

 

Totally agree with you. I hope you can turn it off.

 

@john.c.morrill
Dude, you've been naughty, so Santa won't bring you any presents this Christmas.
Just kidding!
I actually find the implementation of virtual shift quite interesting and engaging.
Or the BMW approach on electric vehicles where the entire chassis vibrates before accelerating from a standstill.
And I'm a proud petrolhead on top of my I5N.
But let's face it, high-performance EVs are becoming the most sought-after performance vehicles. And I do own a few of petrol 1000+ HP vehicles in my man cave and none of them are even close to the enjoyment of using Preformance EV.

 

It's just to cater to consumers who find EVs sterile. If you don't like it, turn it off. It's the same as the clutchless fake semi-manual shifting they used to throw on sporty looking cars in the 90s/00s. Most people will use it a couple times and never touch it again. For the five owners who actually do use it, it'll be the coolest thing ever so good for them.

 

I don't like it so it's stupid and anybody that does is a bugar head...wow🙄

 

I see it as just pandering. It's like Ford making a Model A that could smell like a horse and crap in your driveway.

 

If only we had an engineer who works at HMG here who could tell us why the port overheats and how to fix it... If only... That would be so helpful.

 

Bring it to the authorized service center and let them troubleshoot. If they need to replace charging port you will be covered under warranty period.

 

Am I talking to myself? The people who have had their ports replaced have had the EXACT same issue happen to them a couple months later. There is a manufacturing defect somewhere that creates resistance and then heat build-up. But I understand that you are not at liberty to discuss these issues.

 

I agree with you. It just took America 50 years to start making muscle track cars.

 

Can we all just please get back to the original topic in this thread? The ongoing battle of words between certain "combatants" in this thread and certain other threads starts to get really tiresome if not annoying and will eventually lead to another thread being closed/locked.