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Ordered the 1879003730AS harnass from the previous listed Korean website. Also, ordered from mykiaparts.com. Hopefully between the two websites I get the correct wiring harness for plug and play.

Debating between the Kicker 10 inch that has 4.5 rating on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083M9HR4D/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1FKUCA1GX5YMG&psc=1

Or the 8 inch Kicker that has 4 rating on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Kicker-11HS8...electronics,83&sr=1-8&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3
 
Well just got this email ---
We are sorry to inform you that your order #25967 has been cancelled. For cancelation reasons please check your email as you will get another email with the reasons why it was cancelled and if possible a way to fix it.
If you have any other questions or would like assistance please respond to this email. You will receive faster assistance and step by step instructions when you contact us via email.

We appreciate your business, and hope you will shop with us again!

So come on Korean Website order!!!!!
 
Well just got this email ---
We are sorry to inform you that your order #25967 has been cancelled. For cancelation reasons please check your email as you will get another email with the reasons why it was cancelled and if possible a way to fix it.
If you have any other questions or would like assistance please respond to this email. You will receive faster assistance and step by step instructions when you contact us via email.

We appreciate your business, and hope you will shop with us again!

So come on Korean Website order!!!!!
So did you get the email explaining why the order was cancelled?
 
Ordered the 1879003730AS harnass from the previous listed Korean website. Also, ordered from mykiaparts.com. Hopefully between the two websites I get the correct wiring harness for plug and play.

Debating between the Kicker 10 inch that has 4.5 rating on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083M9HR4D/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1FKUCA1GX5YMG&psc=1

Or the 8 inch Kicker that has 4 rating on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Kicker-11HS8-Hideaway-Subwoofer-Enclosure/dp/B007LQWSYC/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3QEON4EDNED14&keywords=kicker+8+inch&qid=1672761127&s=electronics&sprefix=,electronics,83&sr=1-8&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3
I tried both. Go with the 10 inch. It sounded much better!
 
Come on DHL. Got my shipment confirmation from the Korean website.

Dear, Michael Nugent

Thank you for your order from Sparekorea.com! We wanted to let you know your order# was shipped via DHL today. You can track your package at any time using link below
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Estimated Delivery (assumes no clearance or other delays)
Friday, January 13, 2023
By End of Day
 
Got old woofer out, new Kicker 10 in. Will do wiring tomorrow. However, I am confused. I bought the connector from Korea.
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What color wires will go to the Kicker wires?
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From the first picture I have Brown, White, Pink, Red that slides into the Korean part.

On the kicker wiring harness I have Red, Blue, Black , Grey, Grey with Black stripe, White, and White with Black stripe.


From earlier in this post some said:
Brown -- Grey
White - Grey with Black Stripe
Pink -- White
Red -- White/Black

From the the power outlet I am going to go red power wire to red kicker power wire. Then connect the black ground wire from amp to black wire from power adaptor.

So on the Kicker harness I will not use the blue or black ground correct?
 
The four wires you have coming from the KIA amplifier are the inputs to the subwoofer. The subwoofer is really biamped; it combines the outputs of a left subwoofer channel + (brown) with the right subwoofer channel + (pink). The white wire is the left channel subwoofer - (white) and the red wire is the left channel subwoofer -.
Summarized: (all are high level outputs)
Brown Left+
White. Left -
Pink. Right+
Red. Right -

You need to determine which wires on the kicker harness are the subwoofer inputs and connect the above outputs to those inputs.
You'll need to refer to the Kicker documentation to determine which wires are the high level inputs.
 
Super easy to drop in a replacement unit. Highly recommend ordering that part from Korea so you don't have to cut any original wires. I can go to 100% stock if I need to. Off to do drive around with my new upgraded stereo. Now if only the rear seat speakers would be at the same level as the front speakers!! o_O
 
All it would take is 2 more channels of amplification. Connect the new amplifiers between the existing amplifier and the rear speakers.
You would probably be dissatisfied however.
That's because all the rear channels (mains, surrounds, and the sub) are muted. (Not Off, but down by 20 to 30 dB). You would still need a way to make the rear channels "track" the front channel levels. Otherwise you would have to be constantly adjusting the rear channels output levels to track the front.

None of the TSB's Kia has issued relative to the subwoofer have corrected this problem. I'm holding out for the KIA fix as I don't think I should have to add an amplifier to make my rear speakers audible. Going the powered subwoofer route makes a tremendous improvement, but it doesn't solve the rear sides and surrounds being muted. Meridian has gone on record that the rear channels should have the same output levels as the fronts, but I have yet to hear the rear speakers work properly in any EV6 I've tested. Meridian didn't manufacture the KIA sound system, they designed it. But your head unit was designed by KIA. Kia makes it interface with all the sensors, radars, cameras, audio sources, radio, phone, Bluetooth and internet signals to keep the car on the road and the driver entertained. There's a tremendous amount of processing going on in that head unit. But somewhere deep inside there's a bad line of code, and so far, the engineers haven't found it. When they do, you'll be able to sell your powered subwoofer on eBay.
 
All it would take is 2 more channels of amplification. Connect the new amplifiers between the existing amplifier and the rear speakers.
You would probably be dissatisfied however.
That's because all the rear channels (mains, surrounds, and the sub) are muted. (Not Off, but down by 20 to 30 dB). You would still need a way to make the rear channels "track" the front channel levels. Otherwise you would have to be constantly adjusting the rear channels output levels to track the front.

None of the TSB's Kia has issued relative to the subwoofer have corrected this problem. I'm holding out for the KIA fix as I don't think I should have to add an amplifier to make my rear speakers audible. Going the powered subwoofer route makes a tremendous improvement, but it doesn't solve the rear sides and surrounds being muted. Meridian has gone on record that the rear channels should have the same output levels as the fronts, but I have yet to hear the rear speakers work properly in any EV6 I've tested. Meridian didn't manufacture the KIA sound system, they designed it. But your head unit was designed by KIA. Kia makes it interface with all the sensors, radars, cameras, audio sources, radio, phone, Bluetooth and internet signals to keep the car on the road and the driver entertained. There's a tremendous amount of processing going on in that head unit. But somewhere deep inside there's a bad line of code, and so far, the engineers haven't found it. When they do, you'll be able to sell your powered subwoofer on eBay.
Interesting and good information: Last Friday I did a Kia Complaint via the website about the rear speakers being lower than the front. Kia called me back in several hours and suggested I take it to my dealer. I called the closest dealer to my house (I bought my EV6 out of state from a dealer not charging over MSRP). Their EV guy was on vacation and they told me to call back in a week. Not sure what is going to be accomplished taking it in. It is a known problem. But at least I will have record of the rear speakers being at a lower volume than the front.
 
Yes, but I have run so many tests I don't want to overcomplicate things. Suffice it to say if I set the front center to 80 dBA, the sub would also increase by 5 dBA, but the difference remains constant.
I should also note that the level difference is not -20 dB for all the rear speakers; only the subwoofer demonstrates that big of a difference.
For example, the rear surrounds were down by -15 dB; the rear door tweeters were down by -12 dB. The differences start at -2 dB for the front tweeters and gradually increase as you move backwards. Also, turning on Meridian Surround mode increases the rear surround output (but only those 2 speakers) further complicating the problem.
I chose to present only the unprocessed, totally flat signal to insure every driver received exactly the same signal from the source. The differences exhibited are totally outside the operator's control, and Meridian has gone on record saying there should be no difference in perceived volume or quality between the front and rear speakers.
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but if the main problem is the rear speakers being underpowered relative to the fronts, how much does adjusting the sound fade to the rear speakers a few levels improve the sound quality for everyone?

I've put the fade about two levels to the rear in audio settings and boosted the bass +6 or so. The bass is still a bit unbalanced/anemic, but the sound is much fuller. I also have a Wind 14-speaker system with only ~500 miles/15 hours of drive time logged.

I'm not an audiophile, and I don't play one on TV. So looking for the opinion of more discerning ears.
 
You are on the right track. Moving the fader towards the rears will improve the overall sound because what you are really doing is reducing the level of the fronts to more closely track the rears. When you move the fader rearward, the rears don't get any louder at all; you are simply trying to achieve a reasonable balance in the relative volume between front and back. I've got the rear balance fader about the diameter of the "knob" towards the rear from the center circle.
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(The top of the fader just touches the bottom of the center circle) Try to use some bass heavy program material to make this adjustment. SiriusXM Channel 53 {Chill} is a good bass heavy source. Also, ONLY USE THE REAR ARROW to make this adjustment. If you deviate at all when moving the fader, the rears will immediately drop out. (That's the muting kicking in.) If this happens, touch the "Center" target to restore the rear channels. This unwanted behavior really demonstrates how the muting function works improperly.

Once the levels match (as best they can, it won't be perfect), you then use the volume control and the rears will track. What you are doing is reducing the fronts to match the rears. Because the fronts will now track the rears, volume changes will be better, but you will be using a much higher overall volume to overcome the muting (reduced but not off) that is stuck on the rear channels. You'll be pushing the amplifier harder to overcome the reduced front levels, but the rear bias you have added will make the overall sound much more balanced.
Observation: Using Surround mode adds in the two high mounted rear surround speakers. If and when the onboard navigation speaks, or receives a text notification, you'll hear it loud and clear through the surrounds (if in surround mode) because they unmute momentarily to make the announcement.
Meridian designed the system to automatically reduce the level of your chosen source momentarily so you can hear the navigation or other warnings when they occur. I'm calling this muting, but the proper term in professional audio is ducking. The primary source volume drops (it "ducks" down but isn't silenced) so the warning can be heard. THIS is the underlying problem in the head unit. The rear channels are stuck in this ducked or muted state.
I have documented this anomaly and sent it to Kia Customer Service.
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I have had long sessions with the Service Techs at my dealer, including a Kia Certified Master EV Tech (who I don't fault at all) and they fully understand and agree this is a problem. But there is absolutely nothing they can do because the problem is going to require a software update. Kia has tried multiple fixes for this including replacing the amplifier, (which doesn't work) because the problem is in the head unit.
If you need to prove this to your Service Writer, get them to sit with you in your car and do the setup process I described earlier. Then ask them to do the exact same experiment on any other new Kia on the lot (any model they want except another EV6). The problem is immediately evident. Your service department can't fix it (yet). The only other workaround is to use the "big guns", and install a powered subwoofer. This instantly improves everything because it can amplify the muted output from the EV6 external amp. This is why multitudes of EV6 owners are taking things into their own hands and bringing in the "big guns” and instant nirvana a powered subwoofer provides. This solution is best for the the front seats, but rear seat passengers will still have muted rear doors and surrounds, (but plenty of bass). The intended Meridian experience fails to materialize. The Meridian factory installed subwoofer is actually quite capable, (if it weren't getting the muted input). It is actually biamped; the single woofer has two voice coils and each is fed by it's own amp channel. But it can't deliver anything when it's getting a muted signal. This is why the Meridian system can't deliver as it was designed. Meridian has gone on record that the level of the rear channels should match the front channels. But I doubt if any Meridian engineer has ever sat in a production EV6. If they did, they would be horrified. But Meridian has no support network at all for their automobile products, there is no mention of any automobile product on their website. Only Kia can fix this, and I'm confident they will eventually actually listen to what is rolling off the line. But for me, I choose to wait for the fix. The audiophile in me disagrees, but the way I look at it, I shouldn't have to add a powered sub to a $50,000+ car just to hear what was intended.
 
@Manticore - your input on this subject is simply brilliant and much appreciated! I've got a "big gun" coming next week. :ROFLMAO:
Hawk:

Thanks for your kind words. I'm willing to bet the "big gun" you mention is an understatement.

Instead of spending any more bucks on my EV6, I'm using those funds to add 4 more channels of amplification and speakers to my home theater, taking it to an 11.2 configuration. But I'm envious of what you are doing. I made my decision based upon anticipated hours of use, and I spend way more time at home than in my car.
 
Hawk:

Thanks for your kind words. I'm willing to bet the "big gun" you mention is an understatement.

Instead of spending any more bucks on my EV6, I'm using those funds to add 4 more channels of amplification and speakers to my home theater, taking it to an 11.2 configuration. But I'm envious of what you are doing. I made my decision based upon anticipated hours of use, and I spend way more time at home than in my car.
@Manticore, thank you for your explanation. these are the kinds of insights I was looking for. The whole muting thing is so odd. In my other (ICE) car, the sound system will occasionally get stuck in ducking mode, but a quick full power cycle will fix it.
Dont get me wrong, I still love this car, but ducking Kia and their ducking sound engineers really need to get their ducking act together…
 
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